| Mount Olive Township Council Minutes
December 5, 2000
The Regular meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council
was called to Order at 7:30 pm by Council Vice President
Rattner with the Pledge of Allegiance.
According to the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate Notice
of this meeting has been given to the Mount Olive Chronicle
and the Morristown Daily Record. Notice has been posted at
the entrance of the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown
Road, Mt. Olive, New Jersey, and notices were sent to those
requesting the same.
ROLL CALL: Present: Mr. Heymann, Mr. Scapicchio, Mrs. Kelly,
Mr. Spino, Mr. Rattner
Absent: Mr. Guenther, Mr. Sohl
Vice President Rattner: Mr. Guenther and Mr. Sohl have other
commitments this evening. I would also like to acknowledge
the attendance of the Mayor, Paul Licitra; the Business Administrator,
Sandy Kaplan; the Township Attorneys, John Dorsey and Peter
King; and Township Clerk, Lisa Lashway.
PRESENTATION & PUBLIC HEARING Application for Franchise
Renewal of Municipal Consent for Comcast Cablevision of Northwest
New Jersey, Inc.
Vice President Rattner: We have postponed this Public Hearing,
there was a problem with the advertisement so it will be
rescheduled in the near future.
ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS
Mayor Licitra: I have a Proclamation I would like to read
into the Record. I felt this was appropriate because we are
a Township of Volunteers and I would like to acknowledge
all their efforts.
Proclamation - International Year of Volunteers
WHEREAS, the Year 2001 is the International Year of Volunteers,
challenging every country and every community to promote,
recognize, and celebrate volunteer service in its own way,
and
WHEREAS, the outcomes of the year shall be that more people
will volunteer and more government, nonprofit and private
sector partnerships will engage new volunteers to help alleviate
social problems, and
WHEREAS, volunteers in this community have selflessly helped
to address many of the needs of our town and to make it a
special place in which to live and work
NOW THEREFORE BE IT PROCLAIMED, that I, Paul R. Licitra,
Mayor of Mount Olive, along with Volunteers For Morris County
recognizes and congratulates the volunteers in our town,
encourages residents to volunteer in the community and proclaim
the Year 2001 as the International Year of Volunteers.
Vice President Rattner: Thank you, Mayor, any other Administrative
Reports?
Mr. Kaplan: I just have one. I wanted to advise the Governing
Body–and I think you got a copy of a letter from the
Attorney Lawrence J. Fox, representing the buyer of the Route
206 Condo Unit. It seems for various reasons, outlined in
his letter, the sale will not be going forward. I had spoken
to the Real Estate Agent, we’re, obviously, going to
be putting it back on the market, and we are looking for
alternative uses for that particular condo unit. We’ll
keep you abreast of developments as they go on. I guess,
John, we’ll have to rescind the Resolution that we
passed at the last meeting?
Mr. Dorsey: I guess, because they don’t even want
to negotiate.
Mr. Kaplan: I got that impression also.
Mr. Dorsey: I think what we have is an unhappy condominium
association that doesn’t really like us to sell it.
Vice President Rattner: Sandy, is this the same office that
found the last buyer? If it is, I would suggest we find somebody
else, because he’s not doing his job finding out what
the limitations are. Things like the air-conditioning, the
plumbing, things like that. He should know what he’s
selling. This is the second time around. We don’t want
to keep going through this.
Mr. Kaplan: I think it was a lack of communication. I wasn’t
even aware of it until he called me about it. I had to go
check with Buildings & Grounds to confirm it. They share
a common furnace and the HVAC is provided through the Condominium
Association. I found that all out after the fact. I agree
with you, it should have been know upfront when the offer
was originally made. But, we’re going to put it back
on the market. In the meantime, we’re also looking
at an alternative use for the unit. We may wind up using
it for some of the storage.
Mr. Dorsey: I don’t know that this will soothe your
feelings, but you must remember the unit cost you only $650,
my fee for In-Rem Tax Foreclosure.
Mr. Scapicchio: I’m not sure I want to get used to
using that facility for storage on a long term basis. I think
if we start to use it on short term, it will inevitably turn
into long term, and I prefer not to use it as storage.
Mr. Heymann: Well, we’re having a little problem with
the tenants there. I think putting it in as a storage place,
they’d be leaving the windows open, it might quickly
get the Association to think about letting us sell it. Sometimes
it’s fair play. If they’re not going to join
us and help us sell it, then I’m not going to be overly
friendly about what we do down there. It would be nice to
get rid of that thing, and they’re making it difficult.
Mr. Kaplan: Well, it’s approximately 2200 square feet,
and we’ve been looking for some area that we can possibly
use to move things around and possibly set up a dead storage
area for a short period of time–maybe a six month period
of time. As far as I know, right now speaking to the Realtor,
there is no one else interested in that particular location.
So we’re going to have to rework it.
Vice President Rattner: Thank you, Mr. Kaplan.
LEGAL REPORTS: NONE
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS - R. Heymann
S November 28, 2000 CS (Present: Mr. Spino, Mr. Scapicchio,
Mr. Heymann, Mr. Guenther, Mr. Sohl; Absent: Mr. Rattner,
Mrs. Kelly)
Mr. Heymann moved for approval of the Minutes and Mr. Scapicchio
seconded the Motion.
ROLL CALL: Passed by the majority, Exceptions: Mrs. Kelly
and Mr. Rattner ABSTAINED
CORRESPONDENCE
Letters From Residents - none
School Correspondence - none
Resolutions, Ordinances, Correspondence from other Towns
1. Ordinance received November 27, 2000, from Washington
Township Regarding Land Use.
League of Municipalities
2. Legislative Viewpoint received November 29, 2000, from
the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding S-940/A-2371,
on the Transfer of Mining and Quarry Operations to the Department
of Labor.
3. Letter received November 29, 2000, from the New Jersey
State League of Municipalities regarding the final draft
of the State Development plan.
COAH
4. November 2000 Newsletter received November 27, 2000 from
Council on Affordable Housing.
Correspondence from Cable Networks/Utilities
5. Letter received December 1, 2000, from Comcast regarding
a change in channel.
Correspondence from Legislative Representatives
6. Letter received November 27, 2000, from Governor Christine
Todd Whitman regarding approval for Municipal Aid for the
resurfacing of Cory Road.
Notices
7. Notice received November 27, 2000 from the Township of
Roxbury regarding Notice of Hearing from the Planning Board.
Vice President Rattner stated that we had received seven
items of correspondence and asked Council if there were any
comments on same.
Mr. Spino: On #2, I would like some more information on
this quarry operation. I’m not really clear on what’s
going on. I want to make sure the Town is going to be protected.
My understanding it’s going to be transferring the
controlling of the mines, quarrying to the Department of
Labor.
Vice President Rattner: Which wrote the specs based on what
the aggregate industry wants.
Mr. Spino: That’s what I’m saying. We don’t
want that. Since we have large operations in Town we should
make sure the Township is protected. If that’s what
it is, we should get a copy of it.
Mrs. Lashway: I think we have done a Resolution opposing
this.
Vice President Rattner: Yes.
Mr. Spino: I want to make sure. Because what I saw, it’s
going to be coming up again for a vote.
Vice President Rattner: Okay.
Mr. Scapicchio: As long as we’re talking about this–what’s
happening with the quarry in Mt. Olive and the reclamation
plan that was supposed to be forthcoming.
Mr. Spino: Did we not give them a reprieve until they got
out from being under water?
Mr. Scapicchio: No, we did not.
Mr. Dorsey: I think you have to send a memo to the Planning
Board asking what the status is because it had to go back
to the Planning Board. That’s where they had to start
processing their application. You gave them a waiver that
they didn’t have to have the approval from the State
as to the water diversion if they had made the application
so they could then proceed.
Mr. Scapicchio: Lisa, could we follow up on that, please?
Mrs. Lashway: Yes.
Mr. Scapicchio: Thanks.
Mr. Spino: The other one is to find out if anyone from Chuck’s
Office, or anyone is going to the Meeting about the State
Master Plan. Since we are really interested in making sure
that the Town can be protected through that plan as part
of our focus.
Vice President Rattner: Mayor, Mr. Kaplan, you got Earl’s
comment to make sure that we’re represented at the
final Public Hearing in Morris County for the State Plan?
I believe it’s the first meeting in January.
Mr. Kaplan: Yes, I got the correspondence.
Vice President Rattner: Earl’s comment was to make
sure we’re represented. Okay.
ORDINANCES FOR PUBLIC HEARING
Ord. #46-2000 Bond Ordinance Providing for Various Capital
Improvements of the Township of Mount Olive, in the County
of Morris, New Jersey, Appropriating the Aggregate Amount
of $360,000 Therefor and Authorizing the Issuance of $342,000
Bonds or Notes of the Township to Finance Part of the Cost
Thereof. (computer upgrade and refurbishing of Budd Lake
Fire Ladder Truck)
Vice President Rattner opened the Public Hearing on Ord.
#46-2000
Vice President Rattner closed the Public Hearing on Ord.
#46-2000
Mr. Heymann moved for Adoption and Final Passage on Ord.
#46-2000 and Mr. Scapicchio seconded the motion.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
Vice President Rattner declared Ord. #46-2000 as Passed
on Second Reading.
Ord. #47-2000 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive
Banning All Unregistered, Unlicenced Vehicles and ATV’s
from Turkey Brook Park.
Vice President Rattner opened the Public Hearing on Ord.
#47-2000
Mr. Al Weiner, Flanders Crossing: Just reading it here,
I thought maybe it was a typo. Aren’t you missing a
couple of things? This means anybody with a registered vehicle
can drive in there. Technically, is what you’re saying.
Mr. Dorsey: No, even technically, that’s not what
we’re saying. We’re saying who cannot drive on
there.
Mr. Weiner: But my blazer is registered. So, I can go drive
there.
Mrs. Kelly: That’s one of the problems that we have
there.
Mr. Dorsey: Well, that’s another aspect that we didn’t
address in this Ordinance. That’s another aspect that
can be addressed.
Mr. Weiner: It should be totally closed to any motor vehicles
other than authorized is really the way it should be worded.
Vice President Rattner: The park has been posted with No
Trespassing, right?
Mr. Spino: Yes, it is.
Vice President Rattner: And the park is basically closed
except for construction.
Mrs. Kelly: I don’t believe it is closed.
Vice President Rattner: It’s posted.
Mrs. Kelly: In front of the gravel road, but not in other
parts of the park.
Mr. Weiner: They’re working on the park across the
street from us and there are signs that say, “Park
Closed” and they’ve been practicing soccer, there
are people parking in between the trucks going in and out.
I mean, not to be funny, but it’s just worded badly.
Vice President Rattner: This was done primarily just for
the people using it for their dirtbikes. Things like that.
We tried cutting it off for traffic before, but a dirtbike
would just come through the woods.
Mr. Weiner: Okay, but people four-wheel-drive with bigger
trucks too.
Vice President Rattner: Is there anyone else?
Mr. Bonte: In continuation of what we just heard, what if
one has a legally registered dirtbike?
Vice President Rattner: It says, “all ATV’s.”
Mr. Bonte: A dirtbike is not an ATV.
Vice President Rattner: In my book it’s considered—
Mr. Bonte: No, it’s not.
Mr. Scapicchio: I think the point is, we want to make sure
all motor vehicles are kept off.
Mr. Bonte: Yes. It sounds like somebody went through a great
attempt here to make this sound official, but you’ve
really not covered a whole host of things that can ride around
up there that will bypass this Ordinance.
Mr. Scapicchio: Aren’t we really trying to say that
we want to prohibit all motor vehicles licensed or unlicenced
from Public Parks, except as authorized in the appropriate
parking for legally licensed vehicles.
Mr. Dorsey: There is an existing Ordinance. Does the existing
Ordinance address–
Mrs. Lashway: It’s not an existing Ordinance specific
to Turkeybrook.
Mr. Dorsey: What about to parks generally?
Mr. Spino: Public property?
Mr. Dorsey: The only thing I know, when we discussed this
up here three times, you all only discussed these types of
vehicles to be specifically prohibited. Off the top of my
head, I’m not sure why you only discussed those. Perhaps
other vehicles are simply prohibited via omnibus Ordinance
dealing with all of the parks.
Mr. Scapicchio: You’re right, John, this was what
was discussed and nothing else. But, the Public is now offered
some–
Vice President Rattner: But we’re going to allow–when
the park is open, when we have parks, we allow licensed vehicles
to go in there. Regardless, we don’t want anything
off the road. But licensed motor vehicles will be allowed.
If you want to go up there on a motorcycle and watch a soccer
game, you’ll be allowed to drive in there. We don’t
want any unregistered vehicles because there is no reason
for an unregistered vehicle because it is not a recreation
area for those types of vehicles.
Mr. Dorsey: Then you’re going to have to do an Ordinance
saying licensed vehicles are permitted but only where authorized.
Mr. Scapicchio: Maybe that’s what we should do.
Vice President Rattner: But we should still put this in,
get this on the books, and then we’ll have to put that
on for a future workshop. All right, any other comments from
the Public?
Vice President Rattner closed the Public Hearing on Ord.
#47-2000
Mr. Scapicchio moved for Adoption and Final Passage on Ord.
#47-2000 and Mr. Heymann seconded the motion.
Mrs. Kelly: How are we going to make the Public aware of
these prohibited vehicles?
Mr. Scapicchio: Signage.
Mr. Dorsey: The Administration will post signage.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
Vice President Rattner declared Ord. #47-2000 as Passed
on Second Reading. And thank you to the Public for bringing
up the other issues, we’ll be addressing that in early
January.
ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING (December 19, 2000 Public Hearing
Date)
Ord. #48-2000 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive
Amending and Supplementing Section 400-46 Entitled “Fire
Lanes” of the Code of the Township of Mount Olive.
(Parkade Shopping Center)
Mrs. Kelly moved that Ord. #48-2000 be introduced by title
and passed on First Reading and that it be scheduled for
Adoption after a Public Hearing on December 19, 2000 at 7:30
p.m. Mr. Scapicchio seconded the Motion.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
Ord. #49-2000 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive,
County of Morris, to Amend and Supplement Chapter 400 Entitled “Land
Use” to Provide Regulations for Stream Corridor Buffers.
Mr. Spino moved that Ord. #49-2000 be introduced by title
and passed on First Reading and that it be scheduled for
Adoption after a Public Hearing on December 19, 2000 at 7:30
p.m. Mr. Heymann seconded the Motion.
ROLL CALL: Passed by the majority, Exception: Mr. Scapicchio
ABSTAINED
Ord. #50-2000 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive
Establishing Fees or Rates for Off Duty Police Officers.
Mr. Heymann moved that Ord. #50-2000 be introduced by title
and passed on First Reading and that it be scheduled for
Adoption after a Public Hearing on December 19, 2000 at 7:30
p.m. Mr. Scapicchio seconded the Motion.
Mr. Scapicchio: Sandy (Kaplan) do these revised rates reflect
the total cost including health coverage, retirement–
Mr. Kaplan: Administrative costs are all established in
here, yes.
Mr. Scapicchio: Okay.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
Ord. #51-2000 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive
Establishing a 25 mph Zone on a Portion of Wolfe Road Between
its Intersection at Kings Arrow Road to its Intersection
with Flanders Drakestown Road.
Mr. Scapicchio moved that Ord. #51-2000 be introduced by
title and passed on First Reading and that it be scheduled
for Adoption after a Public Hearing on December 19, 2000
at 7:30 p.m. Mr. Heymann seconded the Motion.
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously
Vice President Rattner: Next on the Agenda is the Consent
Resolutions. For people who have an earlier version of the
Consent Resolutions, #7 and #8 have been removed because
we have not received them. Also, on the non-consent, I’m
going to use my prerogative and add on the request from Commerce
Bank to consider allowing them work on weekends.
Mr. Scapicchio: I don’t have a problem with that.
The only thing I would like to make as a requirement of Commerce
Bank is that they–
Vice President Rattner: But that’s on the non-consent,
so we’ll discuss it at that time.
Mr. Scapicchio: Okay.
Vice President Rattner: Is there anyone on the Council who
would like to discuss any of the consent resolutions?
Mrs. Kelly: I would like to take #6 off the Consent.
Vice President Rattner: Okay. Any other comments?
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS AGENDA:
Resolutions on the Consent Agenda List are considered to
be routine and non-controversial by the Township Council
and will be approved by one motion (one vote). There will
be no separate discussion or debate on each of these resolutions
except for the possibility of brief clarifying statements
which may be offered. If one or more Council member requests,
any individual resolution on the Consent Agenda may be removed
from the Consent Agenda List and acted on separately.
1. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of
Mount Olive Reducing the Number of EDU’s Assigned to
St. Jude’s Church, Block 3807, Lot 1 and Block 3807,
LOT 2 for Sewer Assessment and Sewer Annual Charges. (correcting
11/28/00 resolution)
2. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of
Mount Olive Supporting an Amendment to the Morris County
Regional Emergency Deployment System (MCREDS) Agreement.
3. A Resolution Authorizing a Change Order to the Contract
with Mount Hope Rock Products, Inc. for Bartley-Drakestown
Road Improvements.
4. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of
Mount Olive Authorizing a Dedication by Rider for Off-Duty
Police Services.
5. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of
Mount Olive Authorizing the Release of Performance Guarantees
Posted by Woodmont Builders at Mount Olive, LLC (Bennington
Chase).
Mrs. Kelly moved for approval of the Consent Resolutions
and Mr. Scapicchio seconded the motion.
Vice President Rattner: Anyone from the Public wish to address
the Consent Resolutions?
ROLL CALL: Passed unanimously
6. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of
Mount Olive Approving the Camp Pulaski Site as a Wood Recycling
Center.
Mrs. Kelly: I’m happy to see that it includes the
whole wetland delineation and that they have an updated Township
map, but I’m a little concerned about just giving them
the broad statement, in the last “NOW THEREFORE BE
IT RESOLVED” where it says, “to include Class
B wood recycling.” I want to make perfectly clear that
that does not include the wood palates. I know we discussed
it, but this Resolution doesn’t really address that.
Just by reading “Class B, wood recycling” I think
that’s too broad. I’d like to see it more specific,
what they cannot include.
Vice President Rattner: This Resolution is just authorizing
the Administration and the Mayor to enter into an Agreement.
Mr. Kaplan, the Agreement we got, wasn’t that removed?
The Agreement that we’re authorizing you to sign excludes
palates.
Mr. Kaplan: Yes, we had negotiated that on-site. I was there
and they agreed to remove that.
Mrs. Kelly: I would almost like to see it attached to the
Resolution. I just feel uncomfortable that we’re just
calling it a Class B–
Mr. Rattner: I would ask that the Business Administrator
provide you with a copy of the Agreement. Remember, we’re
just authorizing to sign it. I know it was taken out. In
fact, I think he gave us that on there.
Mrs. Kelly: I know we discussed it. I just want to make
sure that it’s not allowed to be put back in it.
Vice President Rattner: Well, that would be in the Agreement.
Mr. Spino: If the Business Administrator has that in writing,
it’s part of his agreement with the County. The only
way we’re going to find out is if we get someone who
tells us, or if we go up and check. We could do that, too.
I think that would be okay.
Mr. Kaplan: This is a letter from the Morris County Solid
Waste Advisory Council dated October 30, 2000, to us. It
says specific changes in the application include the deletion
of stumps as an acceptable material, and the deletion of
pallets as an acceptable material as long as there are concerns
with potential dangers posed by the Asian Long Horned Beetle.
So, that is in writing from them to us.
Vice President Rattner: And you have a copy of their Permit
Application which shows it’s been taken out. Right?
Mr. Kaplan: Yes.
Vice President Rattner: Okay. I think we’re covered.
Again, Mrs. Kelly, this is just authorizing them to sign
the Agreement. Any other discussion?
Mr. Scapicchio: This Resolution doesn’t refer to that
document. So, if we’re going to abide by the language
in that document that Sandy just referred to, then that document
should be referred to in this Resolution.
Vice President Rattner: Can we incorporate that letter?
Mr. Dorsey: I didn’t get anything like that–I
didn’t get these exclusions. I think I was told very
specifically to include the two recommendations.
Mr. Scapicchio: John, why can’t we just incorporate
a reference to that letter that Sandy referred to?
Mr. Dorsey: That’s okay by me. So, it’s “Class
B, excluding pallets.”
Mrs. Kelly: And stumps.
Mr. Dorsey: All right, why don’t we just say that
in the Resolution.
Vice President Rattner: Could you add a “WHEREAS”and
include that.
Mr. Dorsey: All right. It will read, “...include a
Class B Wood Recycling Center, but not to include wood pallets
or wood stumps...”
Mrs. Kelly: Okay, now I’ll vote for it.
Vice President Rattner: I now open this to the Public.
Mr. Bonte: Could you explain to me exactly what this operation
is, what they’re proposing doing?
Mrs. Kelly: They’re going to bring in construction
material, and other, and chip it on site, rather than just
the recycling–
Vice President Rattner: Not “construction material.”
Mr. Kaplan: I believe what they’re going to do, they’re
going to use the site–the trees, etc. that are damaged
\as a result of storms, etc., will bring them on site here
and chip them.
Mr. Spino: Right now they compost leaves and grass–
Mr. Bonte: Right now we compost leaves and grass for other
Towns, a relatively benign operation. Now we’re going
to bring in machinery–
Mr. Spino: They have machinery there right now.
Vice President Rattner: The machinery–right now, they’ve
been bringing the stuff in, this is for some permit that
they need to get today, but they’ve been taking in
the brush, and basically the storm damaged trees–and
then there was a contractor that came in periodically. I
don’t know if they’re going to change that. This
is just a permit so they can continue to do it. They would
come in with a piece of equipment for a week or two, chip
everything and then leave.
Mr. Bonte: Are we not allowing this site to grow more into
something of an industrial nature by letting them get their
foot in the door a little further here?
Mr. Kaplan: We said to them when we were up there, the majority
of the Committee was there, we could not let them expand
the existing area they were using without coming back to
us and asking for permission to do that. They specifically
showed us an area where they intended on doing this chipping.
They get the brush, the tree limbs in throughout the County
as a result of storm damage, or whatever, and they would
periodically come in with a piece of equipment and chip and
make it into mulch.
Mr. Bonte: But it is an expansion of the present operation.
Mr. Kaplan: Yes.
Mr. Bonte: And they did want to bring in pallets and stumps.
Mr. Kaplan: Initially.
Mr. Bonte: Sandy, you made some reference to some type of
beetle, and you said–
Mr. Kaplan: Asian Long Horned Beetle.
Mr. Bonte: Can you read the sentence preceding that?
Mr. Kaplan: It says in their October 30, 2000 letter to
us: “Specific changes in the application include the
deletion of stumps as an acceptable material, and the deletion
of pallets as an acceptable material as long as there are
concerns with the potential dangers caused by the Asian Long
Horned Beetle.”
Mr. Bonte: Okay, that’s what I thought you said. What
you’re putting in the Resolution now is in conflict
with that statement. That statement says that at some point
in time when this beetle is no longer a threat, they can
bring stumps and pallets in. So we need to make this air-tight
so that this operation doesn’t expand into something
more of an industrial nature. Because that’s an inappropriate
place for industrial operations to be taking place. This
was supposed to be a fairly benign operation that they have.
Mrs. Kelly: We were concerned, too, about the fire hazard.
Mr. Kaplan: The last sentence goes on to say–and I
didn’t bother to read that, is: “Finally additional
information about fire provision has been updated.” They
had, and are concerned–updated the information about
fire prevention at that particular site.
Mr. Bonte: I think this Resolution should specifically give
instruction to the Administration to delete that reference
to, “As long as this beetle remains a threat.” If
you don’t want stumps and pallets up there, let’s
say it outright, and they can’t come in there unless
that issue comes back to this Council.
Mr. Kaplan: We have no problem with that.
Mr. Bonte: You probably don’t. I want to make sure
the Resolution is not conflicting with the documents you
have.
Vice President Rattner: Mr. Dorsey, can you make sure those
changes are in the Contract they sign?
Mr. Dorsey: Yes.
Mr. Bonte: Has this been reviewed by our Local Solid Waste
Advisory Committee?
Mrs. Kelly: The Environmental Commission.
Mr. Bonte: Has this been reviewed by our Local Solid Waste
Advisory Committee?
Mr. Kaplan: I don’t know.
Mr. Bonte: I would think it should be.
Vice President Rattner: Anyone else? All right, I close
the meeting to the Public. Mr. Bonte, the Clerk has informed
me that the SWAC was given a copy, but we don’t know
if they’re actively meeting right now, but they were
on the distribution list. If the Attorney would add that
wording?
Mr. Dorsey: BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that even after the
threat of the Asian Long Horned Beetle, no wood pallets or
wood stumps shall be brought to the site for recycling.
Mr. Heymann moved the Resolution as Amended and Mr. Spino
seconded the motion.
ROLL CALL: Passed by the majority: Mr. Heymann, Mr. Spino
and Mr. Rattner voted YES
Mr. Scapicchio, and Mrs. Kelly voted NO
Vice President Rattner: all right, we removed #7 and #8.
REMOVED:
7. Donation of Block 2305 Lot 4. (21 Stonehouse Rd/DiBiasi)(not
received)
8. Donation of Block 3700 Lots 5 & 42.(JMI Associates,
245 Rt. 46 & 5 Spring St.)(not received)
Vice President Rattner: Next item we have which was added
is the request from Commerce Bank to allow them to do inside
construction work on the bank that they’re trying to
complete by year-end, in Flanders. We have Mr. Paul Flanagan
representing Commerce Bank. You want to do a short explanation
of what you’re actually requesting? And why it’s
not going to bother anybody.
Mr. Flanagan: Thank you. As I said in my November 22, 2000
letter, my client--they anticipate that they will close in
the project before Friday, and at that time any work that
will be done will be done inside. There would be no traffic
issues or noise or anything else. It would just be matter
of doing the inside, finishing work and things like that.
As I said, in order to get it finished by the end of the
year, they would like the opportunity to do it on the weekends.
If we were to wait for the workshop meeting and then the
Council meeting on December 19th, the only two weekends would
be the weekend preceding Christmas and the weekend preceding
New Year’s so, we would request the Council, I guess
by Resolution, Mr. Dorsey could probably tell you how to
do it, authorize that to take place. I’ll answer any
questions the Council may have.
Vice President Rattner: Mr. Flanagan, then you would agree,
on the weekends, the “banned time” there would
be no outside work?
Mr. Flanagan: Yes.
Vice President Rattner: And, also, I’d like to add
that at those times there would be no loading of materials
either. What we’re concerned about is the additional
traffic and the noise. You’re not going to have a delivery
of heavy equipment?
Mr. Flanagan: No.
Mr. Heymann: I don’t have a problem with him unloading
materials. This is an absolute zone–I don’t’ think
there’s a house near it.
Vice President Rattner: I was told there are a couple of
houses.
Mr. Spino: There are residents–Flanders Crossing is
in that area–
Vice President Rattner: Cloverhill. But he’s agreed
they won’t be causing the noise on Sunday.
Mr. Scapicchio: I don’t have a problem with them unloading
material for interior work. But what I would recommend that
the Township have a contact person on site in case there
is some sort of annoyance–we have some ability to contact
someone on site.
Mr. Flanagan: I’m sure that would be acceptable.
Vice President Rattner: I just want to make sure–we
have in our Ordinance–we don’t want to set a
precedence–there are reasons to allow a waiver. I just
want to make sure it doesn’t become commonplace. Mr.
Dorsey, could you come up with the wording?
Mr. Dorsey: I think we should just handle this Administratively.
Indicate to the Administrator to handle it administratively.
It’s a one or two week venture.
Vice President Rattner: I think our Ordinance requires it
coming to the Council.
Me Dorsey All right.
BE IT RESOLVED by Mt. Olive Township Council it hereby
grants special and temporary permission to Commerce National
Bank to proceed with interior, inside construction, for the
next two Saturdays and Sundays in order to complete the building
for occupation by January First; and Commerce National shall
give to the Administrator, or whomever he shall designate,
the cell phone number of a person or persons who will be
at the site at all time construction proceeds on Saturdays
and Sundays.
Mr. Flanagan: I would only ask that you make it for the
next four. For the rest of the month.
Mr. Spino: For the next four weekends?
Mr. Flanagan: Yes. Until the end of the year.
Mr. Heymann: So moved.
Mr. Spino: Second.
Vice President Rattner: Anyone from the Public who would
like to address this?
Mayor Licitra: Can I just add–we have a holiday coming
up on a Sunday.
Vice President Rattner: Yeah, but I don’t mind if
he works on Hanukkah.
Mr. Heymann: Which holiday are you referring to?
Mr. Weiss: I have to imagine that an Ordinance that prohibits
construction on Sunday is in effect to protect the quality
of life of residents. So, I don’t know if this particular
situation is good or bad and I’m not putting thought
into it, but, Number One, the construction of DPC Cirrus
right next door, there are not trees there any longer and
I can tell you every morning there is nose that I can hear
from my house that’s a heck of a lot further than the
unpainted furniture barn. So, you can’t just discount “There’s
no houses.” Because that sound is traveling now in
a treeless zone. I just think it’s bad for us and I
don’t think the bank has come up and given you any
reasons why this construction has to be completed by the
end of the year. I haven’t heard what’s the rush?
So, you’re about to possibly give leeway from an Ordinance
that’s in place for good reason for no apparent reasons,
and I’m just concerned why you would do that. That’s
all I have to say.
Vice President Rattner: We do have a Nosie Ordinance that
will be enforced, but as I said, “inside work.” The
reason for the ban on Sunday was as not to disrupt the public.
If they’re working inside, I was concerned about the
unloading of equipment and that.
Mr. Spino: The only “bad” thing we’re
giving them–they have the right to work Sundays inside.
I would say requiring them to have a phone on hand is an
excellent idea. If there are complaints, we can call.
Vice President Rattner: And there is a benefit to the Town
in them completing it as soon as possible because we can
then assess the property for the building and start collecting
the property taxes. Any other comments from the Public? I
will close the public comments.
Mr. Scapicchio: Let’s just make sure the Police Dispatcher
has that phone number on hand so if the residents have a
concern on Sunday they can gain access immediately to that
employee on site.
Mr. Flanagan: That’s fine.
Mr. Scapicchio: Will you absolutely guarantee us that somebody
on site will be available via phone or pager on Sunday?
Mr. Flanagan: Yes.
Mr. Scapicchio: And that they will be responsible in case
there is a call.
Mr. Flanagan: Yes.
Mr. Scapicchio: Thanks
Vice President Rattner: Any other comments?
ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously.
Vice President Rattner: Good luck.
MOTIONS
1. Bill List. ATTACHED
Mr. Spino moved for approval of the Bills and Mr. Heymann
Seconded the motion.
ROLL CALL: Passed
2. Approval of Bingo Application #969 for Knights of Columbus
#6100 Fr. Joseph A. Cassidy Council.
Mr. Spino moved for approval of the Motion and Mr. Heymann
Seconded the motion.
ROLL CALL: Passed
COUNCIL REPORTS
Vice President Rattner I have something that can be good
news. I got a call from one of the County Engineers. What
they were looking for is the property owners around the intersection
of Flanders at Tinc, River, Bartley Road. When Weiss Supermarket
was going in, since it’s on a County Road, it goes
to the County Planning Department. I said the big concern
would be that intersection. At the same time, I believe somebody
from the Town had written asking them to look at that and
accelerate the improvement of that intersection. I got the
call, it was put on a priority list, it was funded for next
year. They expect to complete the design and the land acquisition
in 2001. They called and I’ve passed that on to Chuck
McGroarty so he can let them know, but they expect to have
the work done in 2001—the land acquisition and do the
construction in 2002. So, that’s good news. It doesn’t
cost us a penny because it’s a County road, and it’s
a needed improvement in that area. That’s all I have.
PUBLIC PORTION
Vice President Rattner: Is there anyone from the Public
who would like to address the Council on any matter?
Mr. Robert Greenbaum. 104 Crenshaw Drive: I have two issues
to address. One was on an Ordinance which was discussed this
evening very briefly–it involves the wood recycling
center. I have to say, I agree with Mr. Bonte, it’s
a very slippery slope in two respects. First of all, as Mr.
Bonte pointed out, the more machinery you bring in there,
the more problems you’re asking for. I’m more
concerned that the site is somehow going to
Mr. Greenbaum (cont’d): develop into an unauthorized
landfill. As you have people bringing in more material to
a site, it becomes a greater magnet for other materials which
are not permitted by Ordinance to be disposed of at the site.
I do environmental litigation for a living. I’ve seen
it happen before, and I would suggest that there be some
serious oversight at that particular location to make sure
that we don’t run into problems down the road. Having
said that, I’d like to move on to my second issue,
which involves Flanders Park. First, let me say that I am
very happy to see the progress which is being made down there.
I’ve seen Bob Casey down there on a number of occasions.
I think that the park is moving along at great speed. Speaking
on behalf of Howie, we are very concerned in Flanders Crossing
that the Park is proceeding without what we feel was promised
to us, which is a safe crossing to the Park. I’m not
aware of–and no one has discussed with me those things
which were part of the project, such as: signage, a center
median, a speed reduction on Flanders-Bartley Road, striping
on the road. None of those issues have been addressed. I’m
not aware that they’re included in the things which
are being done at the park. And I’d like to know from
the Town Council whether or not those items are going to
be addressed, and they’re going to be taken care of;
whether they’ve been considered, whether they’re
in the plans, and how we’re going to go about making
them happen.
Vice President Rattner: Mayor, can you answer those concerns?
Mayor Licitra: Yes. They are being considered. They are
part of the plan. I know Bob (Casey) is dealing with it right
now. What we have to do is, we have to look at the speed
limit on the road, and also the crossing–we know what
we want to do. It’s a matter of just getting it on
the drawing board and doing it. No, we haven’t forgotten
it. It will be addressed, and something will be done. I,
personally, would like to see something. I said that two
years ago. I haven’t changed my mind, so something
will be done about it.
Mr. Greenbaum: The reason I raise that now is because Al
Weiner is going to get up and talk about another issue related
to the park and safety that we really have gotten an unacceptable
response to in terms of planning and we wanted to see if
we could–well, I’ll leave it to Al. I don’t
want to steal his thunder. Thank you.
Mr. Al Weiner: I was hoping Mr. Casey was here because I
hate to say things when somebody is not here to defend themselves.
But, I’ll keep it very short and factual. Being that
I’m on this new Committee for accessibility that’s
supposed to be coming in to play, and also an advocate for
accessibility because of my own life. One of our homeowners
sent an email to Mr. Casey asking about a section of the
front of our development. I used my kids’ markers to
draw a little map so you can kind of understand what we’re
talking about. The way that the front of our development
is, you have a sidewalk running down the basins towards the
A&P. This would be Flanders-Bartley Road. The Park is
this way, the A&P is that way. You’ve got the Manor,
you’ve got Luna Road, and the homes over here; you’ve
got the end of our basin, the woods–and for some reason,
I don’t know why, but there’s an outcrop of road
that the grass comes out. When they built our development–and
I don’t know what the stipulations were for the sidewalks,
but right in front of our basins, there are two sidewalks,
and they end one at Main Street at the other side, and this
one down here, going towards the church, comes out and then
follows this little pushout of grass towards the road. Now,
granted, there is no curb cut because it’s perfectly
flat, but, there are no lights on this part of the road here
until you get right to the Manor, or down towards the Park,
or our entrance. One of our homeowners sent an email to Mr.
Casey asking that as long as these are the existing sidewalks
here in red, this is what they’re putting in right
now by the Manor, going down towards the Park. This was the
section they re-did going down to the A&P. Originally,
our builder put this straight towards the road instead of
going straight across to the church driveway, which is pretty
much right across the street from Luna Road. A lot of people
use our development as walkers/joggers. The Manor people
have been seen coming over because it’s a great area
to walk, there’s a lot of sidewalks and it’s
open. People from Cloverhill come over. When you come out
of our development on that dark road, and start down that
sidewalk thinking you’re going and can get somewhere,
this dumps you right on to Flanders-Bartley Road. If you
go across with a carriage or a wheelchair, this is all curb
straight across. You have to go 50 yards to the Manor, to
the new curbcut that will be there; or another 50 yards down
to Luna Road, which has a curbcut. Or, come all the way back
to the crossing that was said in the email that should be
used, that we just talked about that’s not there yet,
or proposed. The homeowner’s question was, as long
as you’re doing all that work, and all that machinery
is there, it would take three bags of concrete and a sledgehammer
to put a curbcut on this little piece of curb right here
in front of that sidewalk, and solve the whole thing before
somebody gets hit by a car on Flanders-Bartley. Mr. Casey’s
answer was, “It’s not in the plans.” Done.
Number One, we know it’s not in the plans. That’s
why it was brought up as a suggestion or a question. That’s
part of the reason why I started my campaign. It’s
answers like that that have gotten us to the point when I
came to you saying, “Okay, we’ve made our mistakes.
We know what the problems are. Where do we go from here?” We’re
starting a Committee. I’m going to be full-fledged
in this. I’m going to be up here every week if I have
to. This is just not acceptable.
Mr. Dorsey: Tell the Mayor to get a sledgehammer.
Mr. Weiner: Thank you.
Mr. Kaplan: This is where you want it?
Mr. Weiner: Maybe 20 feet from where it’s on the property.
Mrs. Kelly: Last week I was down there, and I saw a Senior
walking her shopping cart in the street. Do the Seniors use
that sidewalk?
Mr. Weiner: The problem is, the sidewalk doesn’t go
all the way to the Manor. So, they have to come out their
driveway and walk down the street to Luna Road to first get
up on a curbcut to get to the A&P. The sidewalk will
be there soon. Thank you.
Vice President Rattner: Is there anyone else from the Public
who would like to address the Council or the Mayor on any
issue? Seeing no one, I will close the meeting to the Public.
COUNCIL COMMENTS: NONE
Vice President Rattner: We will adjourn out meeting and
move on to the Workshop.
Motion made for adjournment. All in Favor, None Opposed.
The Meeting was adjourned. At 8:26pm
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William H. Sohl
Council President
I, LISA M. LASHWAY, Township Clerk of the Township of Mount
Olive do hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes is a true
and correct copy of the Minutes approved at a legally convened
meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council duly held on
December 19, 2000.
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LISA M. LASHWAY
Mount Olive Township Clerk
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