Mount Olive Township Council Minutes
February 22, 2000

The Regular meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council was called to Order at 7:30 pm by Council President Sohl.

According to the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate Notice of this meeting has been given to the Mount Olive Chronicle and the Morristown Daily Record. Notice has been posted in the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown Road, Mt. Olive, New Jersey, and notices were sent to those requesting the same.

ROLL CALL: Present: Mr. Heymann, Mr. Guenther, Mr. Scapicchio, Mrs. Kelly, Mr. Spino, Mr. Rattner, President Sohl

President Sohl: I would also like to acknowledge the attendance of the Acting Business Administrator, Bob Casey; the Township Attorney, Bob Fisher; Township Clerk, Lisa Lashway; and Auditor, Paul Lerch. The first order of business is both a pleasure, and in dealing with it, obviously, another reminder of a rather sad occasion. I would like to read the following Resolution and ask that somebody second it.

1. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Extending Appreciation and Gratitude to the Roxbury Township, Washington Township and Netcong Borough Police Departments as Well as the New Jersey State Police and the Morris County Sheriff=s Department for Their Assistance and Coverage During the Memorial Services for Past Chief Charles Brown.

President Sohl moved for approval of the Resolution and Mr. Spino seconded the motion.

President Sohl: I would like to invite the representatives of these entities to come upBwe have a copy of the Resolution for each of you. Mt. Olive Township would like to thank you for all your assistance during this difficult time for us. This was, obviously, not a pleasant situation, but one that shows the teamwork and the comradery that exists between the Forces that you represent. I thank you on behalf of the Township Council, the Administration, our Police Department, and all the citizens of Mt. Olive Township. I would like to present these plaques to each of the Forces mentioned, if you would come up and state your name on the Record:

Patrolman Jeff Coulsen, Netcong Police

St. 1st Class, John Lennon, New Jersey State Police.

Chief Mark Noll, Roxbury Township

Chief Thomas Baxter, Morris County Sheriff=s Office

President Sohl: Again, thank you very much for coming this evening, and we really appreciate the effort that you put out to help make the ceremony and that day, under the circumstances, as best it could be. Thanks again.

ROLL CALL: Passed unanimously

President Sohl: I=m going to change the Agenda a little bit. We have motions to appoint individuals to various positions, and since they are all here, I am going to move it up at make those nominations at this time.

Appointment of Robert Mehr to the Open Space Committee for a 3 year unexpired term to expire 12/31/02; Appointment of Anthony Ranieri to the Board of Adjustment for a 4 year unexpired term to expire 12/31/01; and Appointment of Dan Nelsen to the Board of Adjustment, Alternate I for a 2 year term to expire 12/31/01.

Mr. Heymann moved for the approval of the Motion and Mr. Rattner seconded the motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed unanimously

President Sohl: Now, if those individuals would step up and be sworn in by the Clerk.

Mrs. Lashway: Raise your right hand and repeat after me:

I, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. That I will bear true faith and allegiance to same and to the Governments established in the United States and in this State, under the Authority of the people; and that I will faithfully, impartially and justly perform all the duties of the office of, according to the best of my ability, so help me God.

Mr. Robert Mehr: I, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. That I will bear true faith and allegiance to same and to the Governments established in the United States and in this State, under the Authority of the people; and that I will faithfully, impartially and justly perform all the duties of the office of Open Space Committee, according to the best of my ability, so help me God.

Mr. Anthony Ranieri: I, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. That I will bear true faith and allegiance to same and to the Governments established in the United States and in this State, under the Authority of the people; and that I will faithfully, impartially and justly perform all the duties of the office of Board of Adjustment according to the best of my ability, so help me God.

Mr. Dan Nelson: I, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. That I will bear true faith and allegiance to same and to the Governments established in the United States and in this State, under the Authority of the people; and that I will faithfully, impartially and justly perform all the duties of the office of Board of Adjustment according to the best of my ability, so help me God.

Mrs. Lashway: Congratulations.

Mr. Mehr: Thank you.

Mr. Ranieri: Thank you.

Mr. Nelson: Thank you.


Mr. Casey: None this evening.


Mr. Fisher: JustBas you know, from the Resolution that=s been prepared, the Metra retainage has been worked out. Upon receipt of releases and Certification of Availability of Funds, that Settlement can be finalized from Metra on the Sewer Project.

President Sohl: I just want to make one brief announcement. On March 21, 2000, we will have the folks from GPU Electric Company in, finally, to discuss with us what they are doing, have done, plan to do relative to avoiding the outages that we=ve experienced some months back.


Mr. Heymann moved for approval of the Minutes and Mr. Rattner seconded the Motion.

All in favor, none opposed.


Letters From Residents

School Correspondence

Resolutions, Ordinances, Correspondence from other Towns

2. Resolution of the Township of Randolph received February 8, 2000, supporting the Amunicipal Development Impact Fee Authorization Act.

League of Municipalities

3. Letters received February 8, 2000, from the New Jersey State League of Municipalities regarding a League Seminars on Collective Bargaining and Contemporary Local Police Issues and the 1999 Legislative Session League Bulletin


4. Letter received February 7, 2000, from Robert Rogers, Environmental Consultant regarding a Freshwater Wetlands Letter of Interpretation for Block 4501 Lot 1 (Route 206/Roxbury Border - Roxbury Commerce Assoc.)

5. Permit received February 14, 2000, from the New Jersey State Department of Environmental Protection for a sanitary sewer extension to service Givaudan Roure.

6. Letter received February 16, 2000, from the New Jersey State Department of Environmental Protection regarding a permit to discharge treated Groundwater to Surface Waters for Motiva Enterprises LLC (Texaco Station on Rt. 46).

Correspondence from Organizations/Committees/Boards

7. Received February 7, 2000, from Director Cabana of the Morris County Board of Chosen Freeholders regarding review of the County Budget.

Correspondence Regarding Tort Claims/Verified Notice of Lien Claim/Petitions

Land Use/Development Matters


8. Newsletter received February 7, 2000, from the Council on Affordable Housing

Correspondence from Cable Networks/Utilities

9. Newsletter received February 14, 2000, from Comcast of Northwest New Jersey.

Correspondence from Legislative Representatives


10. Notice received February 16, 2000, from NJ Transit regarding their Fiscal Year 2000 Request for Federal Financial Assistance Under the Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century.

President Sohl stated that we had received 9 items of correspondence and asked Council if there were any comments on same.


Ord. #3-2000 An Ordinance of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Establishing Sewer Allocation Charges for the Budd Lake Sanitary Sewer System and the Cloverhill Sanitary Sewer System for the Year 2000 and Thereafter.

President Sohl: Before we open the Hearing on Ordinance #3-2000, Mr. Casey has some information that he wishes to discuss relative to the details, and one or two Council members have additional pieces of paper.

Mr. Casey: Yes, there is an information sheet that is available. It=s a two page information sheet on the status of the system. (ATTACHMENT A).

Mr. Paul Lerch, Lerch, Vinci & Higgins, Auditor. Review of Sewer Utility Operating Budget, Comparison of 1999 Adopted Budget and 2000 Proposed Budget, explanation of significant increases. (ATTACHMENT A.)

Mr. Rattner: One thingBI want to put the increase in proper perspective. Obviously, nobody likes to see a change, and a change this big. Also, this Council didn=t like to see the change come upon us all at once, basically unexpected. But I want to revert back to a couple of different issues. One, we know we had some problems with the construction, but we got it done, we got everything funded. We set the rates in the end of 1997. I believe the fourth quarter was when the first bill went out. But what we originally estimated, and some of the discussions we had at the time, I think most people that went through the project remember the blue book. This is where we came up with the estimates before construction started. Remember, two of the biggest itemsBor the majority of the expenses of the sewer projectBwhat we have to pay the sewage authority that we send the flow to, and the interest of the debt. Those are items that we have, really no control over at all. Why I bring this upBthis was sent to every resident with a letter from the Mayor in the Fall of 1994. At that pointBand if anybody still has the bookBif you go to Page 11, we stated at the time that based on the current costs, we estimated the cost to be $560 per year per user. Now, that was the average cost based on our estimated cost of construction and operation. Also, this was a single number, not differentiating between an occupied residence and a vacant lot. Because we actually set a two-tier system because it=s less cost if somebody=s not hooked in. And that was what our best guess was at the current cost in 1994. When it came up to 1997, if you remember the discussions that we had, we were asking the information from the Administration, every time they came to us, they came with a different number. Finally, we agreed on a number, which we know was a lot less than what we were originally proposing. We really didn=t understand it. But this Council could not, in good conscience charge more than we really thought we needed to pay the bills. We were constantly told, and we kept asking what is the real cost. What do we have to charge. And I think they left out a lot of different things. I don=t think interest was calculated properly, and a couple of other things. But this Council could only use the information that we got from the Financial Department of the Administration. I think that=s really where the issue comes about. We have two years and one quarter that we basically charged less than we should have. That=s how we generated some of the deficits. We didn=t cover our costs. We can see just what the costs areBjust the interest and the sewage fee. Not discounting any costs to operate the system, the electricity for the pumps, our own maintenance department, what we charged didn=t even cover those two items. The first year that interest wasn=t a problem, was because we hadn't set the Assessment yet, so the interest was just accumulating in the project. So we didn=t have to make those payments, so we didn=t realize that the money wasn=t there. Now that we=re paying it, we should have been charging $560 right from the beginning. If we just took the estimate and what we told the residents we thought it would be, we would have collected an extra $400,000 - $500,000 just from that alone, and we wouldn=t be in the same situation. We would probably still have to have an increase, and if you read the newspapers, and look at other towns, even our Clover Hill Plant, the costs are still increasing. And part of that is the additional costs it takes to treat the sewage. And that=s based on regulations from the State. Worrying about our clean waterBour drinking water, and the cost of treatment is constantly going up. But the real issue we have here, we just didn=t charge enough.

President Sohl: Any other comments?

President Sohl opened the Public Hearing on Ord. #3-2000

Mr. Bob Elms, Budd Lake: The Transfer Emergency Authorizations, and the Deficit in Operations, didn=t the Council authorize this expenditure from the available Capital?

Mr. Rattner: I believe the deferred charges that we had to pay for in 1999 actually came from 1998. That was the prior yearB

Mr. Elms: That was where the bill was generatedB

Mr. Casey: The Bill was generated in 1998, and there weren=t funds available in the Budget. So they basically do an emergency appropriation which borrows money from the next year=s Budget. So, 1998, they borrowed from 1999, okay, that amount of moneyBthe emergency appropriation of $144,000. In addition, in 1998, they still ended up at the end of the year with a deficit. All that cash came due in 1999.

Mr. Elms: And it was transferred from the Reserve for Clover Hill Utility Improvements.

Mr. Casey: What happened at that point in time, to pay those Bills, in 1999, they went into their reserveBwhatever funds they had around that was available, and used all that money to pay those bills.

Mr. Elms: But those transfers all had to come to the Council and be approved by the Council. Is that correct?

Mr. Casey: Yes.

Mr. Elms: The $494,569 interestBthat interest is based on Assessments, or interest that the homeowners are going to pay when they pay their sewer bill late?

Mr. Casey: No. It=s the interest that=s on the Assessment Bills that people are going to be paying this year. When you pay your Sewer Assessment, there=s an interest charge that happens in the future years. That interest charge is what that is. We bring that into the Budget to off set the costs.

Mr. Elms: In other words, the $500 that we paid last year is now going to have interest on it.

Mr. Casey: That=s correct. Grand total of interest of everybody will total $494,000. And since we have to pay that interest over to the banks because that=s the money that=s owed to the banks. We basically bring that in as an interest and then we pay it over to the banks, and we pay the bill and pay the loan off.

Mr. Elms: But that interest figure is just for the Budd Lake System.

Mr. Casey: That=s correct.

Mr. Elms: So that $494,000 is going to be spread over 2,000 people.

Mr. Casey: Whoever has not paid offBobviously, if they paid their Assessment off, 100%, which a number of people have done, there=s no interest cost. That=s only for those people who have opted to pay their Assessment over time.

Mr. Elms: All right. Now, I notice at the end of the second page, you have Aannual sewer rates for surrounding municipalities.@ Since Netcong, Stanhope and Byram are all on the same MSA sewer system, why didn=t we use their rates as an example of the sewer rates of surrounding communities?

Mr. Casey: Those rates were obtained by the Auditor. I think they were ones that they knew of. What are the rates of Netcong? Do you know?

Mr. Elms: I know they=re lower, but I don=t know how much lower. But they=re on the same sewer system. You would think you would use them as examples.

Mr. Rattner: Mr. Elms, I could find out those figures, however, Netcong and Stanhope built their sewer system over 30 years ago. There is no debt on that. If you look at our Budget, the second largest expense is debt service.

Mrs. Toni Ayers, 203 Sandshore Road: We=re all well aware of the lack of information from the previous Administration. My question is, is there any legal recourse for those incompetent people who were responsible for these errors?

Mr. Rattner: WellBwhat happened, we didn=t collect--we=re not saying that money was misspent, we=re just saying because of their numbers we didn=t collect enough. Now we have to make up the difference. All we=re doing is coming back to where we should have been.

Mrs. Ayers: But errors were made that could have been avoided.

Mr. Rattner: But financially, you could go after somebody if you suffered a loss. If we started charging the monies you would have been paying another $100 for the last two and a half years.

Mrs. Ayers: So as long as everything comes out all right, you can=t go after individuals for their incompetence.

Mr. Rattner: You could go after them only if you had a loss.

President Sohl: And none of those individuals are here any more.

Mrs. Ayers: I=m well aware of that, too. Thank you. All right. I have to get this out, Mr. Heymann, I know this is your project. The mud hole down in Flanders. Otherwise known as, what is it? The State-of-the-artBoh, APremier Recreation Area@ this is a quote from the Daily Record.

President Sohl: Toni, are we on this Ordinance, or is this something else?

Mrs. Ayers: I want to tie it in, because already $400,000 is going for that mud hole, when for me, it=s a waste a money and our money could be usedBunless, I suppose it=s apples and oranges, because that $400,000 is going to turn into a half million. I mean, forget about it. You know that as well as I do. And if we=re spending that much money on a field, unlessBwhat do we have, Green Acres? I don=t know where that money is coming from. Is that coming from the same source of why we=re sinking all that money into a ballfield basically when people up here are hurting with these increases? Did I make myself clear? I don=t know.

President Sohl: You=re right, Toni, it is apples and oranges.

Mrs. Ayers: Are those funds coming from another place? Could that money haveB

President Sohl: Those are General Revenue Tax Dollars and/or some of that money is also out of the dedicated tax that the Municipality residents voted for.

Mrs. Ayers: Well, for the Record, I think it=s an enormous amount of money, and I don=t care if it=s Aregulation@ whatever. Anyway, we=re on the sewers. I understand, sorry.

Mr. Rattner: But, Toni, we set up the Sewer Utility. When we started the sewer project we committed to the public, both the people who were getting the sewers and the people who were not getting the sewers, that the sewer system would be self sustaining, or self-liquidating and pay for itself. And that we did. But going through, we did look at any common good that the general tax payer got. And from that I think it=s around 26% - 27% of the entire cost is being paid today by the general taxpayer. That=s still a fairly large chunk.

Mrs. Ayers: Well, it=s frustrating. I think you can understand our frustration, because everybody doesn=t understand all these fine points. When you pick up the paper and see $400,000 for a ballfield, and then your getting a sewer bill. This is how it comes across. You need a little good P.R. to clean up the mess.

Mr. Rattner: The problems we=ve had with the sewer project, we could use a lot of good P.R. But I think the real big issueBand you were here with some of the other people in the audience. When we were looking over the rates, and we kept asking how could the rates be that much lower than our estimate. But, if we were going to failBand this was one of my philosophiesBI don=t want to take money from the taxpayer if we really don=t need it. If we don=t need it today, let=s not take it today. I=d rather take it further down the road rather than just put it away, and then we lock it up some place and then we use it. It was one of the decisions we made. Right, wrong, or indifferent. But we didn=t want to take the money from you until we really thought it was a good number. That=s really what happened.

President Sohl: And let me just add, Toni, of the seven Council people sitting here tonight, four of us are going to pay exactly the same increases as everyone else. And I am not a happy camper about that either. Nor is Mr. Rattner, nor Mrs. Kelly, nor Mr. Guenther.

Mr. Andrew Agens, 13 Stonehouse Road: I understand some people aren=t even connected to the system yet. They=re paying their meter fees, but they=re not connected to the system.

Mr. Casey: That=s correct. There are approximately 100 people that are not connected yet, but they are being billed, they are paying their assessment, and they=re paying their quarterly fee

Mr. Agens: But it doesn=t solve the problem of the sewer we put in for.

Mr. Casey: That=s correct.

Mr. Agens: What=s being done about it? That=s what I=d like to know.

Mr. Casey: We=ve talked about that, and we are basically going to be taking action in Municipal Court to cause them to connect.

Mr. Agens: If you need any help, I can volunteer to put in time to check on things. I=m retired, a Maintenance Superintendent. Anything I can help on this system, I would like to help straighten this out. Even the odorBmaybe I can help. Also, I question the EDUs when some of these houses are 4,000 square feet, or 3,000 square feet, and you=re talking about a lot homes that are under 1,000 square feet being charged the same fee.

Mr. Casey: The fee is based upon 217 gallons per dwelling units.

Mr. Agens: My actual usage, since we have meters over there is between 66 - 67 gallons a day. And I don=t feel we conserve a lot of water. I imagine there are a lot of senior citizens that are really hurting, and they=re probably using less water than we are. So I don=t think it=s fair that the same charge is for someone who is using 200+ gallons. And I wonder if that figure is even right.

Mr. Guenther: Is there any way under the State laws, or regulations that govern this type of system that we could have charged different fees according to the size of the homes?

Mr. Sohl: I know there is at least one municipalityBI think it=s Bedminster that charges, but that=s a situation where every house that=s on the system, apparently has a water meter, because that=s effectively how they make that determination. They create a fee based on water usage, whether you put it on your lawn or flush it down a toilet, it=s still water usage, and that=s how that gets set up. So, there=s inequities in everything to some degree. But, the problem we face here in Mt. Olive is that many peopleBmyself, for example, have our own well. So there is no meter. Not every house is on a water system. So, there is a lot disparities.

Mr. Bonte: I want to take this opportunity to applaud the Council, the current Administration, the Auditor that we=ve had for the last year. We=re finally getting a handle on this whole process of water and sewer rates. We all knew a number of years ago that the rates didn=t look right, that they were too low. Everybody here should be happy that they got a couple of years at a lower rate. But, sooner or later these systems have to be paid for by the users, and this is a step in the right direction. I did have a couple of questions. We know that from time to time, we are going to have emergency appropriations. I question why there is nothing in the current 2000 Year Budget for any potential emergencies, and there is nothing in the 2000 Budget for any capital improvement. Can anybody explain?

Mr. Casey: Yes, you=re right. The projected 2000 Budget is less than I would normally recommend to the Mayor and Council. In fact, I provided to them what I felt was a more reasonable budget, for a larger safety margin. However, that requires a larger rate increase. So the Governing Body properly so said, we=re going to gamble in the Year 2000 that we can bring it in on that number. Hopefully we don=t have to take more money from people. And hopefully, we=ll be all right for at least a year, going in to 2001. So, the Budget you see is a minimal budget. There=s nothing there for capital, there are some items in thereBwe have money for the odor problem, and stuff like that, but other things we feel should be done, we=re postponing until we have a better financial position in the utility.

Mr. Bonte: Okay, my question to you is, if we incur an emergency, the bill, obviously has to be paid in the Year 2000. Where do the funds actually come from to pay that bill?

Mr. Casey: If you have an emergency and you cannot fund it out of moving money within your existing budget aroundBrobbing Peter to pay Paul, then what you do is basically borrow from the subsequent year budget.

Mr. Bonte: How do you borrow from the subsequent budget?

Mr. Casey: It=s called an Emergency Appropriation. You adopt a Resolution saying we have an emergency, we need Ax@ dollars, and we=ll pay it back next year.

Mr. Bonte: Where do you get the money?

Mr. Casey: If we don=t have cash available in one of our many accounts to borrow against, we can actually go out and borrow from a bank if we had to. So, you can borrow in an emergency if you had to.

Mr. Bonte: When you say your Amany accounts@ are we talking about borrowing money from the general budget?

Mr. Casey: We can. We can borrow money from the general fund to the sewer fund. At the end of the year, you end up with what is called a Adue to.@

Mr. Bonte: When that money is returned back to the general fund, is it returned back with interest to the general taxpayer at the market rate as if the sewer utility had to go out and borrow that money?

Mr. Casey: No, it is not.

Mr. Bonte: Can I ask why not?

Mr. Casey: It is not done that way primarily because you=re trying to protect the rate customers within limits. That=s just another cost you=re adding to the cost of the operation that was in the hole to begin with.

Mr. Bonte: It=s subsidizing the utilityB

Mr. Casey: That=s correct.

Mr. Bonte: Bby the general taxpayer who may not have those Township services.

Mr. Casey: That=s correct.

Mr. Bonte: I would like to ask this governing body to consider as part of what you=re going to be looking at in 2000 establishing sewer rates for the future years that it be incorporated in the ordinance that if these funds are not borrowed on the street, if they are actually transferred out of general appropriations that they be done so with interest billed to the utility at the market rate, and that that interest be paid back to the general taxpayer fund. There should be no subsidizing of the water and sewer utilities by the general taxpayers. Otherwise, I think you=ve done an excellent job, and I hope we don=t have any problems this year.

Mr. Rattner: I know our Business Administrator said it=s bare bones, and it is. However, I think you heard him and the Auditor say the Revenues that are in the Budget are very conservative. That they can=t budget more than what they actually collected the year before with the exception of an Ordinance that would raise the rates. So, with that, what normally happens, just like with our regular Town Budget, the Revenues, because of new connections, because of payments of late fees and things like that, do increase. One of the items that I see on here is interest on Assessments. This year, probably the average interest rate for the year is probably going to be about 20%, or one percent higher than what the interest and borrowing rates were last year. So, with the same amount of money that we=re able to keep in the funds until we pay back the Bonds, we=re going to generate extra revenue. We can=t account for it, and it wouldn=t make sense to cut that close. At the same time, in most of our accounts, we don=t spend the whole Budget. We put everything that we think we=re going to spend, and at the end of the year we=ll cancel out some of the different expenses. So, hopefully our expenses are right on, or will be a couple of dollars under without any emergency. The Revenues, hopefully, will end up with a little bit more than we had anticipated and that will set up a surplus. That=s really the way the Town generates a surplus for the next year in a general fund.

Mr. Lew Candura, Crease Road: You mentioned that part of the budget was going to be dealing with the odors.

Mr. Casey: Right.

Mr. Candura: How much of the Budget was allocated for that, and what are you planning to do about it?

Mr. Casey: We have budgeted in here approximately $20,000 to purchase the carbon filter manhole covers, things like that to go in there, and also funds to get prepared to inject chemicals into the pump stations if proved necessary this summer. So we have put money in there and we are going to buy the carbon filters and put those on. And, if it does not do the trick, then we=re looking at chemical treatment in the wet wells.

Mr. Candura: Originally when they had brought up the chemical filters, they said they were good for a period of about one year. Is this a temporary fix?

Mr. Casey: No, I found out the replacement filter is about $15. It=s like a car filter, you have to buy replacement filters and put them on. Assuming they=re working, they are contaminated by absorbing the odors. Time will tell. If the filters work this year, it=s a fairly nominal expense to go out and just replace the filtes.

Mr. Candura: The filters will be in before the end of the Spring?

Mr. Casey: We=re ordering them now, so hopefully they=ll be in place before the hot, humid weather comes.

Mr. Candura: Is there any plan if the filters don=t work? Will we be able to do anything else this year?

Mr. Casey: YesB

Mr. Candura: Or will we have to wait?

Mr. Casey: What we=re doing, we authorized the engineering firm that designed the system to give us their design for chemical injection in the wet wells, whateverBwhatever it=s going to take, will be the second step. If you remember, their report had a series of steps. We=re preparing for the first three. If that doesn=t work, then we=re back to punting.

President Sohl: And, understand, Lew, we=re not adopting the Budget, actually tonight. Although, obviously, this limits what we can do in terms of financing. And the whole sewer budget is subject to full review.

Mr. Rattner: Two things to considerBthe Budget, we have to have the rate increase in place beforehand, otherwise we can=t consider the other part. Number Two, Mr. Casey, correct me if I=m wrong, there was another item in the top three that was proposed and that was to look at the timing of the pumps. And that=s something that you=re going to be doing too, experimenting with that, right.

Mr. Casey: We looked at that and there may not be enough capacity to do much there, the flows are too low.

Mr. Rattner: But there were a couple of different things, we=re going to probably go over the first three items, even the study said may very well take care of it, but you won=t know until you try.

President Sohl: I=d like to try to keep the comments focused on the Ordinance. Is there anyone else from the Public?

President Sohl closed the Public Hearing on Ord. #3-2000

Mr. Heymann moved for Adoption and Final Passage on Ord. #3-2000 and Mr. Guenther seconded the motion.

President Sohl: I will just add that this is not a pleasant experience for any of us sitting here. What I would like to note, what we have now from our Administration is a level of confidence that we have not had for quite some timeBa freeflow of information and honest presentation of information that is allowing usBpainful as it may beBto get a handle on exactly what was spent where. And, hopefully, this is an adjustment we make this year, and we don=t have to do it again next year, but, it=s something that just has to be done. The money has to come in to pay the bills. That=s why we=re about to take the road we=re about to take.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously

President Sohl declared Ord. #3-2000 as Passed on Second Reading.

Ord. #4-2000 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive to Reorganize Certain Existing Divisions Within Various Departments into a Centralized Department of Public Works Management.

President Sohl opened the Public Hearing on Ord. #4-2000

Mr. Elms: Has anybody done any kind of an economic analysis as to whether or not this is going to help us or hurt us financially?

Mr. Casey: We=re not filling the position that exists now, which is the Director of Water & Sewer. That position is not being filled by the Mayor, he has no intention to do that. So this position from a financial standpoint, we=re redefining the position, we=re changing the duties, but within the same economic ballfield as we were before the Director of Water & Sewer. So, from the organizational standpoint, I think you=re going to find it pretty close to an even trade.

Mr. Elms: But you have a Division of Water and a Division of Sewer.

Mr. Casey: That=s correctBboth reporting to the Public Works Director. Before that, they reported to the Director of Water & Sewer. So, we removed the Director of Water & Sewer. We=re going for a management position, Director of Public Works, and these divisions will report to him directly. So we basically took one body out of the equation, and we=re basically restructuring the department with a different function.

President Sohl: In short, Bob, it=s not a matter of saving a dollar, necessarily, it=s a matter of restructuring from a management perspective. And, the current Administration, Mayor Licitra, wants to try this management process.

Mr. Elms: Do we have any kind of a management plan for this Township.

President Sohl: Yes, that=s exactly why we=re doing this tonight.

Mr. Elms: I=m talking about a table of organization tied with duties of each one of the people, and laid out in the document somewhere.

President Sohl: Yes, and this is a modification of that planBas Clerk pointed out to me, it=s part of our Administrative Code.

Mr. Bonte: I think this is a good idea. I think it=s long overdue. I just have a couple of questions. Is there reason why Buildings & Grounds is not included in this department?

Mr. Casey: That was what was referred to beforeBI recommended to the Mayor, and he agreed, and we recommended to the Council that we would rather organize the six divisions that are down here first. Once that is underway, it may very well be that Buildings & Grounds will be in it in the future, but we didn=t want to bite off too much at this point.

Mr. Bonte: All right, I=ll buy that, but I think that=s something we should work towards. Does this mean the possibility that we might not have to buy this other backhoe this year? And that=s going to come up, I=m sure, and we need to do the analysis I suggested last yearBwhat the utilization is on the current backhoe, and whether or not we really can justify having two backhoes, or can we just go out and rent one when we have to have two? My last questionBthere is something slipped in here, and that is Aprovide for and supervise Township Clean up Program with the assistance of the Division of Roads.@ It=s under Division of Sanitation, Item C. Is that something that the Council is planning on funding this year?

Mr. Casey: That was in the existing Ordinance.

Mr. Bonte: Oh, it was? Because we currently don=t do that.

President Sohl: If you mean, are we going to have a large item pick up day--

Mr. Bonte: Yes.

President Sohl: I don=t think that that=s what this mandates in any way, shape or form.

Mr. Bonte: Okay. All right. I was just curious as to whether there was a change in policy. Thank you.

President Sohl: Anyone else from the Public?

Mr. Phil Spaldi, Vice President MOTPEA: The main question I haveByou kind of answered it, but not specifically. Are we keeping these different departments segregated, or are we actually going to become one conglomerate of employees where, you need someone to work on Sanitation, and you=re going to take him from Water & Sewer? These are questions that the employees are concerned with. How are the Administrative decisions going to reflect on the workers themselves?

Mr. Casey: That=s a loaded question.

Mr. Spaldi: Yes, well, I have a whole bunch.

Mr. Casey: I think, reality, one of the issues that we=re looking at is, by having a Director responsible for the entire operation that it would be possible to respond to emergencies with individual departments as necessary. It is not the intent that, in fact, an employee not know where they=re being assigned any one day, they would keep their normal assignment. But, if, in fact, you have a situation as you do now, when you have snow plowing operations, everybody collapses basically and plows snow, theoretically under the direction of the RoadBthat division.

Mr. Spaldi: Right, but that=s voluntary.

Mr. Casey: Well, actually, if you read the law carefully, under the State Law, under emergency conditions, you have the right to order the employees to do it. But, not saying that you don=t, the guys do it now. But the reality is, one of the benefits we see under this, it would allow a senior manager to more appropriately use manpower and equipment as necessary.

Mr. Spaldi: So this, in actuality renders someone like Sanitation Supervisor powerless.

Mr. Casey: No, he will basically still operate his division as he does now, but under the overall supervision of the Director.

Mr. Spaldi: I=m Water & Sewer. We don=t have a Director, we have a whole situation with the interim person. Now, with the new person being hired will be my actual boss. Other departments, they already have bosses, so they=re going to have two bossesBand a Business Administrator. So now we have three bosses.

Mr. Casey: You basically have the same structure you have now. You have a Division Head and that Division Head provides your daily supervision. The Division Head will report to the Director who will give him overall guidance and supervision, and then the organizational chart will work through his division commanders.

Mr. Spaldi: It seems like you=re wasting salaries now. I don=t see a reasonBnot that I want to see people lose jobs, but then you don=t really have a reason for a Supervisor in an individual department. This guy can carry the load for everybody.

Mr. Heymann: NoBhow would he do thatByou have about five or six departments in thereB

Mr. Spaldi: You also have a Foreman in every department.

Mr. Heymann: But I don=t think you=re standing up here advocating for people to lose their jobB

Mr. Spaldi: No, I=m notB

Mr. Heymann: I=m taking it that way.

Mr. Spaldi: I don=t understand the organization of it. It=s just a little bit unclear.

Mr. Heymann: It=s to centralize everything under one Department. And we=re probably one of the last towns to do it. Many towns already have a DPW with many groups underneath that. I think you=re over creating more than what it is. It is one Department Head eventually that will be in charge of multiple departments. I don=t think it should change anyone=s day-to-day functions. Whether it=s an employee or a supervisor. Everybody here has a day job, so that is something that Administration came to us and made a request, and a presentation that made sense. I don=t think Mr. Casey is telling you anything differently then, it is no indicationB

Mr. Spaldi: I was hired for a certain specific job, with a certain job description. I don=t see how I should have toBif, in fact, it comes toBand you=re saying it=s not going toBbut it could. Now, all of a sudden, I=m going to get thrown on the back of a garbage truck.

Mr. Heymann: In an emergency.

Mr. Spaldi: But that=s not my job.

Mr. Heymann: No, but I don=t know if that=s what they saidBmaybe in the snow, that would be an emergency. I don=t really know how that=s going to work, because it=s beyond my expertise, but I want to really respond to your question. I don=t think there=s any intent by the Administration to change anything as to what normally goes on, other than, maybe your Department Head will have to report to someone else who oversees the whole Department.

Mr. Spaldi: If it=s Administrative, that=s fantastic. We probably could use a better chain of command. I have no problem with that. But as far as the employees themselves, that=s where my concern lies and I think our jobs are going to change dramatically if you=re leaving a window for us to do whatever it is at your beck and call.

Mr. Casey: Let me put it this way. You have a labor Contract. Within that, you have certain rights and grievances, and, if, in fact, it=s in violation of the contract we'll grieve it at that point in time.

Mr. Spaldi: And my other question is with Recreation why aren=t they being included now? They could just as easily help out in snow plowing, which they do anyway now. Why do we have to wait down the road. Why are they not included in it specifically at this time? It=s only two people.

Mr. Heymann: That=s Buildings & Grounds.

Mr. Spaldi: Well, Buildings & Grounds is still only two people.

President Sohl: That was the Mayor=s choice at this point in time and in efforts to his requestB

Mr. Spaldi: I just feel they=re no different than anybody else in the Union Contract.

Mr. Heymann: I would think that in the normal transition that they would eventually be in that department, once everybody sees how everything works out. I would think that they belong under DPW. It wasn=t our idea. It was Administration=s idea, it was the Mayor=s idea, and we just thought it made sense to do it.

Mr. Spaldi: I just wanted to bring to the Township the fact that if they=re going to be switching people around to different jobs, there will problems and we do have a union labor contract and there will be some difficulties down the road with this.

President Sohl: I thinkBnotwithstanding, you have a union contract which sets in place various work rules, etc. What we=re doing here today is not intended to just set up system or create a situation where you don=t know what job you=re going to be doing tomorrow. If you=re water & sewerB

Mr. Spaldi: And some jobs are specialized in the Town and I don=t thinkB

President Sohl: And the more specialized the job is, the less likely that person is ever going to be pulled from that job. I think what this does is, it creates the umbrella that in an emergency situationBand we already recognize that things like snow plowing, there=s major upheavals as to who=s doing what on a given day when everybody=s out plowing roads. Let=s see how it works, let=s see how it goes forward. The mechanisms are in place. Hopefully we won=t even have a grievance. But, again, the mechanisms are there.

Mr. Spaldi: Just one other point. This is minor, but I=ve heard rumblings through the people in Town that the workers, they=re going to changeBsince Administration works a certain amount of hours 8:30 - 4:30, that they=re going to make all the Township employees work a certain amount of time. Specifically, I=m talking Sanitation. They work double-days, and everything else. If they start at 7:00 with everyone else, they don=t want to be working through people=s dinner. Is that going to change?

Mr. Casey: There was no discussion on that at all.

Mr. Spaldi: OkayBit was just a rumorBI just wanted to address it.

Mr. Heymann: I don=t think anybody on the Council would like that. We all understand the job of sanitation. Everyone in the community is always complementing the job they do. I, for one, would never change. They want to get out at 4:00am, and they=re out at 11:00am. I wouldn=t change. I don=t need people to work from 8:00 - 4:00 to put in their time.

President Sohl: Anyone else from the Public?

President Sohl closed the Public Hearing on Ord. #4-2000

Mr. Guenther moved for Adoption and Final Passage on Ord. #4-2000 and Mr. Heymann seconded the motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously

President Sohl declared Ord. #4-2000 as Passed on Second Reading.

Ord. #5-2000 Bond Ordinance Providing for Improvement of Township Owned Property In and By the Township of Mount Olive, in the County of Morris, New Jersey, Appropriating $125,000 Therefor and Authorizing the Issuance of $118,400 Bonds or Notes of the Township of Mount Olive for Financing Such Appropriation. (Budd Lake Fire Dept.)

President Sohl opened the Public Hearing on Ord. #5-2000

President Sohl closed the Public Hearing on Ord. #5-2000

Mr. Scapicchio Adoption and Final Passage on Ord. #5-2000 and Mr. Heymann seconded the motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously

President Sohl declared Ord. #5-2000 as Passed on Second Reading.


Ord. #6-2000 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive Amending and Supplementing an Ordinance Entitled ABond Ordinance Providing for Various Capital Improvements of the Township of Mount Olive, in the County of Morris, New Jersey, Appropriating the Aggregate Amount of $1,250,000 Therefor and Authorizing the Issuance of $1,187,500 Bonds or Notes of the Township to Finance Part of the Cost Thereof (Ordinance No. 21-99). (Generator for BLFARS)

Mrs. Kelly moved that Ord. #6-2000 be introduced by title and passed on First Reading and that it be scheduled for Adoption after a Public Hearing on March 14, 2000 at 7:30 p.m. Mr. Rattner seconded the Motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed Unanimously


Resolutions on the Consent Agenda List are considered to be routine and non-controversial by the Township Council and will be approved by one motion (one vote). There will be no separate discussion or debate on each of these resolutions except for the possibility of brief clarifying statements which may be offered. If one or more Council member requests, any individual resolution on the Consent Agenda may be removed from the Consent Agenda List and acted on separately.

2. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Removing Lot 2, Block 3905 from the Tax Sale List and Canceling Outstanding Taxes for 1998 and 1999.

3. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Awarding a Contract to Norton Conservation Co., Inc. for Municipal Environmental Consulting Services for 2000. (Professional Services/Environmental Consulting)

4. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Authorizing Final Payment of Retainages to Metra Industries, Inc. (BLSP)

5. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive Reject Bids for an Ambulance.

6. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive to Amend the 2000 Temporary Budget.

7. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount Olive RE: Smith Farm Park (Appraisals and environmental testing)


President Sohl: Is there anyone who would like to address any of the Consent Resolutions?

Mr. Spino moved for approval of the Consent Resolutions and Mr. Rattner seconded the motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed unanimously


1. Bill List & Supplemental Bill List.





Mount Olive Public Library

November, 1999 Contribution


Philip J. Maenza, JMC

Services Rendered as Municipal Court Judge for February, 2000


GPU Energy

District II Street Lighting for January, 2000


Bell Atlantic

Telephone Bill for Municipality for February, 2000


GPU Energy

Electric Bill for Municipality for February, 2000


Certified Aggregates, Inc.

Delivery of Snow Grits for Snow & Ice Removal


Benkendorf Landscaping, Inc.

Snow Plowing Services Provided


Benkendorf Landscaping, Inc.

Snow Plowing Services Provided


Dell Computer Corporation

Installation of Three Dell Poweredge Servers for Police Dept.



Allied Oil Co.

Unleaded Gasoline for Mount Olive Township Vehicles


General Code Publishers

Update to Administrative Code


Managed Logistics Systems, Inc.

Contract Charges for December, 1999 (1/12th as per Contract)


Bergen Municipal Employee Benefit Fund

Medical Insurance for February, 2000


Salmon Bros., Inc.

To Remove and Clean-out Oil Tanks at Recycling Center



Mr. Paul Sarno

Return of Remaining Escrow Monies - Freeze and Close-out Account


Schoor DePalma Inc.

For Professional Services Rendered re: Toll Bros. - Dryham Woods



RBA Group

Evaluation of Budd Lake Sanitary Sewer System Odors


GPU Energy

November, 1999 Electric Bill for W&S Dept.


GPU Energy

December, 1999 Electric Bill for W&S Dept.




Metra Industries, Inc

Retainage Releases for Contract SS-1A-(Mod)-92 and



Cenanti Construction/CFM Lien

Contract Balance due for Contract #SS-1H-96

Ord. #16-96



Bollinger Fowler Ins.

Dental premium for 03/2000


Mr. Rattner moved for approval of the Bills and Mr. Heymann seconded the motion.

ROLL CALL: Passed unanimously


Library Board Liaison Report

Mr. Sohl: We will have the Library Board at our meeting of March 7, to discuss with us where they stand in terms of their planning for growth and expansion of the Library.

Recreation Report

Mr. Heymann: I was here on Thursday, and much to Ms. Ayers= chagrin, the mud hole did pass as far as the lighting was concerned. It was a little nip and tuck as our own leadership from up here wanted to hesitate for another schedule, but luckily we were able to have clearer minds, and Mr. Rutledge said let=s move forward. It was discussed to have Mr. Spino and his compatriot Mr. Licitra on a side meeting that we had in another room thereafter when I once again wondered why we would delay a project againBbut, clearer heads prevailed. Now, Mr. Casey, I would ask you a question. Where are we with regard to the package of specifications to go out for Bid?

Mr. Casey: On this?

Mr. Heymann: Yes.

Mr. Casey: The first issue is, where are you relative to funding?

Mr. Heymann: Let=s put that on the old agenda and let=s get moving.

Mr. Casey: I think the issue before you is the question of funding for that and a number of other projects. Now that I have received the AFS (Year-end Fiscal Statement) I received it on Friday. I=ll have a report going out to you showing your current fiscal condition, which you=ll get Thursday, Friday this week. Based upon that, we should start talking about what are you going to do in Year 2000 Capital Budget, of which this is one of the items.

Mr. Heymann: And that=s going segue into the fact thatBmost of the Council doesn=t know, I think only Mr. Sohl knowsBthe MOJBSA which is the Mt. Olive Junior Baseball/Softball Association is going to make a presentation to this Council at the next workshop, which I think is the first meeting in March, about Simsbury, and what they would like to do up there. I think, similar to the soccer projectsBI=ve spoken to the President yesterday, and Friday, maybe we want to go out and retain somebody to at least devise, develop some plans and go from there. So, I=d like to piggyback that in so that we can discussB

President Sohl: Ron, will they have any type of handout?

Mr. Heymann: Yes, they=re going to have a concept plan.

President Sohl: Can they give us a couple of notes or something for the Friday prior?

Mr. Heymann: Yes, I asked Buddy Shakespeare, who happens to be the president, to get that to all of us in the next couple of days. And we need to separateBBill, we know that there was some money that we raised--from the A&PBwe need to know what was earmarked for the lighting so before we have to get into the Budgetary costs, how much we=re going to raise, and where we=re going, we do know that there was already some money put aside. I probably want to discuss the Open Space Funding because I know the Mayor before he left the Council to become the Mayor spoke about possibly using some money from that fund, which we=re raising through taxation. Not only buying Open Space, but also developing property. I=d like to look into that because that=s money the taxpayers already put into that fund, and I think that this particular project, this might be one of the better projects for us to look at that. We can talk about it all night, but I want to discuss it at the next workshop.

Mr. Spino: I was at a meeting with the baseball people, and I did see a plan. One of the people involved is an architect and he drew up a plan for that property for baseball and softball. The other point, we did get sometime ago from the CFO, amounts available earmarked from different fundsBdonations, the Open Space Fund, funds given by a developerBthose monies should be available.

President Sohl: It wasn=t done that long ago. So, it may be up to speedBor it may need a slight adjustment. We=ll include that on the 7th.

Mr. Heymann: One other thing regarding recreation, Bill. Council isn=t aware of this, but we don=t have a traveling basketball team in Town. We don=t do itBthe Middle School has a traveling team. And I think they=re going to move at the Board of Education Meeting tonight to disband that program. And then they=re going to come to Recreation, and they=re going to ask for some offset funds from the school, actually, to help fund this, and they=re going to try to have a 5th Grade, 6th Grade, 7th Grade and 8th grade traveling team. I know they=re going to start with the boys, they will eventually also go to the girls, but that=s something that=s just in the planning stages. Most towns in Morris County do it that way. They have that team. It=s something that the Head Coach came down and spoke about because developmentally, we=re a little behind the eight-ball here in the basketball program. So, I=m just telling you from a recreation view, it won=t really have anything to do with us, it will be something the Recreation Department will do, but I do know that the School Board is talking about that tonight, because they called me to tell me that.

Board of Health Report: NONE

Planning Board Report

Mr. Spino: Mr. Heymann took away my thunder with regard to the lights. We didBmost of us--take the light tour down in Roxbury. They were nice enough to put the lights on for us for a couple of hours last Wednesday evening. The lights we=re getting are a higher grade lighting then they have down there. It looked to me as if it was something that was not really too intrusive to the neighbors. The lights that we=re planning on putting in are farther away, and they=re better shaded, and there are no street lights on that road. The other point at the Planning Board Meeting, the Trade Zone got approval on another building at the intersections along Route 80, between Route 80 and the railroad and International and Waterloo Valley Road.

Open Space Committee Report/Environmental Commission Report

Mrs. Kelly: We=re very happy that Resolution #7 was approved. We=ll be moving forward on the Smithtown Tract. The Environmental Commission just reviewed two applications. One was on the Planning Board and got rescheduled, and the other is an interestingBa Senior Housing, assisted living facility that=s going to be earmarked for that empty field that=s between Johnson Dodge and the Church on Route 46 heading east.

Legislative Committee Report:

Mr. Rattner: None at this time.

President Sohl: Just so you=re aware, the Legislative Committee will be on once a month.

Mr. Guenther: In connection with that, one of the first things we should discuss is, I=d like to know if there=s been any contact with the State or our Legislator regarding the travesty that the State is committing on Route 206 against this Town.

President Sohl: Paul (Licitra) mentioned something yesterday, when I spoke to him, that he had gotten a letter that he was very unsatisfied with.

Mr. Guenther: It=s an absolute disaster what they did there. The Wall of China that they=re building over there by Oakwood Village. It=s taken them months and months.

Mr. Spino: Months?

Mr. Rattner: Years. Four years.

Mr. Guenther: Well, the wall itself, they started months ago, then, in the summer when they should have done it, they were doing absolutely nothing, and then put the cones up to narrow the lanes down. Have you ever been in that traffic jam in the afternoon?

President Sohl: Oh, absolutely. Every single night.

Mr. Guenther: And then they started constructing when the weather got cold. And they=re still at it. It=s unbelievable.

Mr. Spino: And why was there a gap? They finished the project, they had all the lanes open, everybody was used to using the extra lane. Then they said, AOkay, we made blunder here, we=re going to go back and close this lane again.@

President Sohl: Paul=s been looking into it. I know.

Mr. Guenther: You=ve not been involved with that whatsoever?

President Sohl: No.

Mr. Guenther: First item on the Agenda for the meeting, Steve.


President Sohl: I now open the meeting to the Public. Is there anyone who would like to address the Council on any matter?

Mrs. Ayers: The lights were approved for said field?

Mr. Heymann: Yes.

Mrs. Ayers: Were they the tall lights that the cornfield gang didn't want?

Mr. Heymann: They're 70', on poles.

Mrs. Ayers: And, are you leaving yourself open for a lawsuit down the line when they decide that it is bothering them after all?

Mr. Heymann: Well, there are always lawsuits, Toni, believe me, I know that. And thank goodness. But--I always like to add that, and course, you come from a family of a long line of judges and attorneys, and they would say the same thing. It's litigation that makes this world go around.

Mrs. Ayers: I reap no benefit from that long line, by the way.

Mr. Heymann: I know you do not. Any which way, I will say this, we did go--the lights we're putting up are Level 8 Lights, and those lights will have less glare than the lights that were at Horseshoe Lake Field. I really don't think it's going to be the problem that's envisioned but only time will tell.

President Sohl: These will not be on every night.

Mr. Spino: Well, they'll be on until 10:00pm.

Mrs. Ayers: I hope I don't get sued for it, but these people don't really understand everything that's going on, it seems, at all times. You know, the lights aren't going to be on for 24 hours a day.

Mr. Heymann: They'll only be on until 10:00pm, and they'll only be on for two hours, and not every day.

Mrs. Ayers: They're going to be shut off by 10:00pm. If you want to go sit on the deck and watch the stars at 11:00pm that's wonderful, there won't be any lights out except for the moon.

Mr. Heymann: I agree.

Mrs. Ayers: Go back where they come from.

Mr. Heymann: Well, I think the biggest point they were making was the noise from the field, and as I suggested, after 241 homes playing manhunt during the evening, there will be more noise than they'll ever hear from a ballfield.

Mrs. Ayers: They want a recreation field or they don't want a recreation field. You know. Well, wasn't that development Schiess' disaster, or something like that?

Mr. Heymann: No, that was way back in the early days of Custom Living. I think everyone will live happily ever after over there. I really believe that.

Mrs. Ayers: Well, watch out for the cornfield gang.

President Sohl: Any one else?

Mr. John Mauro, Smithtown Road, Vice President First Aid & Rescue Squad: Now that we've gone through the process again and we have rejected the Bid responses for the rescue truck, I'm here to ask for the Council and Administration's help in getting the Bids out again. We've had several conversations with Mr. Casey. He assures me that if this is a priority for us all, we can get these out in ten days.

President Sohl: And that's basically what he's told us.

Mr. Mauro: Okay, good. Tonight, as we're going on, I just got an electronic copy of the original Bid, so I modified it based on the corrections--I'll get that to Administration this week and I hope we can turn that around as fast as we can. I just wanted to let everyone know that our rescue truck went out of service again last week due to a breakdown. It's still out of service tonight, I hope that it's back in tomorrow. That truck's over 14 years old and you all know the litany of issues with the truck, so I just want to make sure that we keep it on the front burner and that it doesn't slide off. I know you all have a lot to do, but as you know this is very important too.

Mr. Scapicchio: Can we Notice the next workshop as a Public Meeting if that Bid packet will be done so we can authorize the issuance of that.

Mrs. Lashway: You don't have to authorize just to Bid.

Mr. Scapicchio: Then that final document can go right out.

Mr. Spino: Yes, you have to authorize the Bid accepting it.

Mr. Scapicchio: Okay. Great.

Mr. Mauro: Great. I'll have our portion up to Mr. Casey tomorrow, and I know you have a few things to add to it, Bill. If there is anything we can do to help move this--but I'm hoping it gets back out. The Vendors are there. I fear that we may have already missed the opportunity. I understand that Ford has already closed the chance to order 2000 chassis. So, now we have to go out and purchase one that's already been bought by someone else. We have to buy it out of the pipeline in order to get the truck within the time frame we want, or we have to wait for the 2001. And we cannot afford to do that because Budd Lake would certainly be without a rescue truck later this year because we know we can't put any more money into the one we have, and we know that as evidenced with this last one, it was a lease spring that broke, that if we driving that by itself, it could have caused an accident. So, get this thing replaced.

President Sohl: I would just add--I think this Council in general, and I know myself, in particular, are pleased with the effort that Mr. Casey has been putting forth on matters like this. I know it's frustrating to have had the Bid rejected as we did, but Bob is more on a level of expertise of the whole Bid process, the way Bids should be done, and he is working, I believe, with you folks to make sure these things happen as opposed to what we know has sometimes occurred in the past, which is, "Oh it's not good enough." So you go back to the drawing boards, and you come back and it's still not good enough.

Mr. Mauro: Absolutely.

President Soh: But, Bob is here, and I'm convinced that he is here to make it right so it can go out.

Mr. Mauro: I agree. We've taken the whole issue on very hard. It was right to reject it because there were some problems with it, including our original proposal, what we'd asked for was inaccurate. So, we're leaving it up to interpretation. We've tightened that up with Mr. Casey's help. My concern is, Mr. Casey is very busy with a lot of issues, and I'm asking that we keep this up on the front burner so this gets out in a week, week and a half, two weeks, because it will take us time, and I believe that we are running close to missing our chance to get one this year. Thank you.

President Sohl: Thank you.

Mrs. Dawn Davis, 206 Sandshore Road: With what I've just heard here tonight, this is scary. I don't want to be left in a house, I don't want to be on a ballfield or have a child there--we have money to put up lights, we have all this stuff going on. This should be top preference over anything.

Mr. Scapicchio: This has been a top priority of this Council since this issue first surfaced.

President Sohl: That's right.

Mrs. Davis: Well, why are we still doing this?

Mr. Spino: There were problems and it had to be redone.

Mr. Rattner: They were challenged.

Mrs. Davis: Well, this should be like Number One. It should be like tomorrow.

Mr. Rattner: I don't think you understand. The Rescue Squad wanted a truck, they wrote up Bid Specs. They asked us to go out to Bid. We knew we had some problems, the attorney tried cleaning it up and it went out to Bid, and it didn't work.

Mrs. Davis: How long is it taking?

President Sohl: You're right, it's taken too long. We had a change in the Administration the first of January, Paul (Licitra) brought in, with this Council's approval, Mr. Casey, who has done a dynamic turn-around in helping get this kind ofB

Mrs. Davis: I'm not putting anybody down, I 'm just saying as a concerned citizen, when I make that telephone call to 911, I want somebody there.

Mr. Rattner: This is not an ambulance.

Mrs. Davis: Yes, Rescue SquadB

Mr. Rattner: It's a truck with equipment.

Mrs. Davis: Okay, fine, but when I make a call and I want a rescue squad, I want somebody there.

President Sohl: It is a priority, and we're working on it, and it's getting attention that it has not had before.

Mrs. Davis: Good.

Mr. Bonte: I just have a question. The GPU, when they come in on March 21, is that a Public Meeting or a Workshop?

Mr. Spino: Workshop.

Mr. Bonte: Will the Public be afforded opportunity to question and--

President Sohl: I will allow it that night.

Mr. Bonte: Thank you.

President Sohl: Anyone else?

Mr. Roskoff: I missed a few meetings, can somebody update me as to whatever happened to Saxton Falls, and the quarry and all those people without water?

President Sohl: The Clerk and I were just discussing--we're putting it on for discussion on March 7, 2000 and First Reading on March 14. Anyone else from the Public? If not, I will close the meeting to the Public.


Mr. Rattner: I attended a meeting last Wednesday. Washington Township has been very aggressive in acquiring Open Space, Farm Preservation, for protecting open lands and water supply. I serve on the Morris County Planning Board with, now Freeholder Nordstrom who said that she had a plan and was looking at saving large amounts of property especially along the upper branches of the South branch of the Raritan. I said I was really concerned, and Mt. Olive is really concerned with our part of the Tarn, and some of the other areas along that part of Town. She invited the State--the Green Acres people to come down to their municipality last week, and invited me to go along to see if Mt. Olive would be interested, or see what she could do in that regard. I made a request of the Administration and requested that Kathy Murphy, as our Grants Coordinator and Open Space Representative would come down. We had a very productive meeting. We talked to the State about their new initiative to save Open Space, using State Funds and keeping large amounts of continuous green open areas in environmentally sensitive zones--large blocks. They actually were excited about it and they saw real potential coming down along the South branch of the Raritan, there were some specific lots that Washington wanted saved and they could relate those to Open Space in Mt. Olive going right down to where the Tarn is located. They said they would be looking at that, and also getting involved a couple other State Departments that may be involved and they have Budget money. Also, look at maybe the area of Chester where Chester meets Mt. Olive and Washington. I think it was a very successful meeting, the State said they were definitely looking at it and seeing how much money is available, and getting different properties on different priority lists. So, it's very promising that we may get some State help in slowing down some of the development in some of our environmentally sensitive areas along that zone.

President Sohl: Thanks, Steve. I just have one comment. I just note that recently we've had notice in the newspaper about a $76,000 Grant for sidewalks. Again, another credit to the effort of Kathy Murphy. To Kathy's credit, she sent a letter to the Mayor and copied to the Council and thanked quite a number of other people, which again, points out that this is a team effort. When we pull together as a team, it's amazing what we get done. I'd like to thank, certainly, my peers on the Council. We've had some rather tough issues to deal with tonight. We're getting very positive and continuous flow of information from the Administration. That makes our job easier. It's never pleasant to raise taxes or raise fees, but when you can better understand and trust the information that's going into that, the better off we all are.

Motion made for adjournment. All in Favor, None Opposed. The Meeting was adjourned at 9:28pm.


William H. Sohl

Council President

I, LISA M. LASHWAY, Township Clerk of the Township of Mount Olive do hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes is a true and correct copy of the Minutes approved at a legally convened meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council duly held on



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