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COUNCIL MINUTES - AUGUST 5, 2008
The
Regular Public Meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council was
called to
Order at
8:15 pm
by
Council
Vice President Tobey with the Pledge of Allegiance.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE & MOMENT OF REFLECTION for all those who
have and continue to protect our freedoms and our way of life.
OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT ANNOUNCEMENT
According to the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate notice of this
meeting has been given to the Mount Olive Chronicle. Notice has
been posted at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown
Road, Mount Olive Township, New Jersey and notices were sent
to those requesting the same.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mr. Roman, Mr. Tobey, Mrs. Labow, Mr. Tepper, Mr. Greenbaum,
Mr. Rattner
Absent: Mr. Perkins
Also Present: David Scapicchio, Mayor; Sherry Jenkins, CFO; John
Dorsey, Township Attorney; Michelle Masser, Deputy Township Clerk
Questions on Bill List?
Vice President Tobey: Does anyone have any questions with regards
to the Bill List on Council? Anyone from the public? Yes, sir.
Please state your name and address for the record.
Nelson Russell, Budd Lake: I’ve got a couple of questions.
On page 1, we’re paying $2,139 to Golub Animal Hospital for
May. What are we getting for $2,000 from a vet?
Mrs. Labow: I can actually, Sherry, I can address that from the
Board of Health. Is that okay?
Vice President Tobey: Sure, Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: We had an issue recently in Town where there was a
house that had been vacated. There were 21 cats that had to be
caught and had to be boarded and euthanized. They were feral. So
a situation like that comes up and you have to take care of it.
So I’m pretty sure that’s where that cost came in.
Mr. Russell: So that was an exceptional situation?
Mrs. Labow: It was a very exceptional situation.
Mayor Scapicchio: The house was deemed a health hazard.
Mrs. Labow: It was.
Vice President Tobey: Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Tepper: My question is will we go back against the homeowner
and put a tax lien on the house for those costs?
Mrs. Labow: Actually what I will, if I can answer that. This has
been a big issue. The gentleman passed away in the home and it
was deemed a health issue. We were, at one point we weren’t
sure if we were going to have to do the cleanup. Fortunately, finally
Frank Wilpert reached the bank and the bank has sent a crew out
and they did send a hazmat, actually they hired a company that’s
licensed to cleanup this type of a situation and it was $22,000
just to clean this house out. The people were, as I understand,
were in arrears with their mortgage payment. So obviously the bank
is going to take over at this point. We are going to look to see
if we can recover the costs from the bank from the sale of the
house, but I don’t know that we’re going to be able
to. We will try.
Mr. Dorsey: Well you can because you’re going to put a lien
on it…
Mrs. Labow: We’ll put a lien on it.
Mr. Dorsey: …and when they go to sell the house you’ll
be able to collect on the lien.
Mrs. Labow: So we are working on that.
Mr. Dorsey: It’s all been worked out.
Mrs. Labow: It’s been a situation that’s been going
on for about two months now.
Mr. Tepper: Thank you.
Vice President Tobey: Mr. Russell, anything else?
Mr. Russell: Yes, on page 7 we have a toilet repair for $1,073.
It seems awfully expensive to repair a toilet.
Ms. Jenkins: There were a number of things they did with that.
They actually spent eight hours in the Police department. I’ll
give you the bill and you can take a look at it because I questioned
the same thing. There were a number of things that they had to
fix. Like I said they spent a lot of time.
Mr. Russell: Alright, it wasn’t just a plug or something?
Ms. Jenkins: No, it wasn’t a simple thing, not at all.
Mr. Rattner: A thousand dollars today could be a simple thing.
Mr. Russell: The only reason I ask is I just had a plumbing backup
with my house and I’ve got Service Master in there right
now. Insurance is covering it. They’re cutting walls away.
Ms. Jenkins: So you’re hoping it’s not going to be
$1,000. It’ll be more than that?
Mr. Russell: Oh, it’s going to be like $2,200. Insurance
is going to pick it up.
Mayor Scapicchio: He’s wishing it was going to only be that.
Ms. Jenkins: Wishing, okay.
Mr. Russell: I mentioned to Tim and he said my side or your side?
I said you’re lucky it’s my side. Page 9, we’re
spending $11,000 on non-contract maintenance. Is our contract right
if we’re spending a monthly amount of close to $11,000 in
non-contract maintenance?
Vice President Tobey: Mr. Quinn, do you want to…?
Mr. Russell: Why don’t we work that type of stuff into the
contract?
Ms. Jenkins: Tim, this was June’s bill, just so you know.
Mr. Quinn: Basically the contract is written on life expectancy
of the different types of vehicles. For instance, a high pursuit
Police car has got a four year contract lifespan to it. Some of
my other trucks, my single axle dump trucks, the heavy equipment,
the packer trucks, they’re anywhere from six to eight years
depending on the type of vehicle. Many of our vehicles have passed
their contract lifespan. So basically repairs to these vehicles
become contract costs. We’re getting into larger repairs
over the past couple of months with heavier equipment, and single
repairs on this equipment run into several thousands of dollars
in some cases. It’s not that every month it’s $11,000.
It’ll vary. It depends on what pieces of equipment we’re
having worked on.
Vice President Tobey: Mr. Roman?
Mr. Roman: Tim, as these vehicles are coming off of contract,
am I correct in assuming that we are still paying the normal contract
payment?
Mr. Quinn: Yes.
Mr. Roman: So, and on this June Bill that’s almost $11,000
was there anything extraordinary that stands out or is this just
normal breakdown?
Mr. Quinn: I’d have to review the billing. I’d have
to look at it. We did have several issues with the backhoe and
a few of my trucks and the packers. We have a couple of those running
off. Although when vehicles do come off of contract we’re
paying the same, but we do also have new vehicles that do come
into the Town that do fall under the contract cost. So most of
the time it’s almost an even wash with what’s going
out and what’s coming in. There may be a lag because of the
time of year that we get our vehicles, but the majority of it balances
out fairly even over the course of a year.
Mr. Roman: Sherry, do we know what we’re on track to spend
this year with Penske combined contract and non contract?
Ms. Jenkins: Well, contract is a flat dollar amount so that will
be what it is and I believe, actually, we’re below in terms
of non-contract. I’m in the process of going through all
of the budget accounts and seeing where we are. I’m actually
pretty happy with a lot of them because we spent less than what
I thought we would in some cases. I believe non contract, I think
we put in, Tim, about $180,000 this year?
Mr. Quinn: Yes.
Ms. Jenkins: And I think that we’re doing well so far through
the six months I think that we’ve paid.
Mr. Quinn: Yes, June was a heavier month.
Ms. Jenkins: It was, but I think the months before that actually
weren’t that bad if I remember correctly.
Mr. Quinn: No, they weren’t. Some months weren’t that
bad at all.
Ms. Jenkins: Yes, so I mean I think that at this point, assuming
no $30,000 months we should be, you know, have spent less than
the $180,000 that we thought that we were going to spend which
was close to what we had last year.
Vice President Tobey: Sherry?
Mr. Roman: Don’t tell them that.
Vice President Tobey: Sherry, do you know offhand how many years
are left in that contract? Or what the term is?
Ms. Jenkins: Tim…
Mr. Quinn: I believe it was a five year contract but the Township
has the option to extend it each year for an additional year.
Mr. Tepper: It’s an automatic renewal.
Mr. Quinn: I believe that’s pretty much along the lines
of what Mr. Dorsey finally settled on.
Vice President Tobey: Alright, Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Tepper: Isn’t the contract in automatic renewal unless
we notify them X number of days in advance?
Mr. Quinn: I’d have to read the print but yes, it’s
something along those lines, but the Town does have the option
every year to cancel or continue the contract. When they first
came in, they wanted a solid five year contract and the Township
said no and we negotiated down to what we settled for.
Vice President Tobey: Mrs. Labow?
Mrs. Labow: I have a question on that note. If it’s an automatic
renewal, do we have an option to renegotiate the contract?
Mayor Scapicchio: We do. We do.
Mr. Quinn: Yes.
Mrs. Labow: So when do we have to give notification for that if
we chose to do that?
Mr. Quinn: Usually if they want to go with an out of contract
hourly rate increase they have to notify us, I believe, 60 days
before the end of the year. Last year they missed that window of
opportunity. So when they came in January, the Township refused
to give them any increase on the hourly rate. So usually before
the expiration of the existing year’s contract they have
to make notification of any changes.
Mrs. Labow: 60 days?
Mr. Quinn: Yes, and there’s an automatic increase on the
contract with the cost of living.
Ms. Jenkins: Yes, the CPI.
Mr. Quinn: The CPI is automatic in the contract.
Mrs. Labow: CPI is automatic.
Vice President Tobey: You know, that contract is a big ticket
line item and I recall a couple of years ago sitting in the audience
and listening to the discussion and I believe there was even a
debate at the time. I don’t know if that’s something
that the Administration can address at some point in the near future.
Just take a look at it again. Maybe Mr. Roman has some additional
feedback that he can contribute towards that with his expertise
in the field.
Mr. Quinn: I do have to add that I am very pleased with the performance
of the mechanics that I have back there. I don’t have any
of the issues that I had in the past with the last contract that
we had in Town. The foreman back there does an outstanding job
and he’s a stickler for quality. I don’t have the comebacks
that I’ve had in the past. I’m pleased with the performance
that we’re getting. We are paying a good price for it but
they do a good job.
Mr. Roman: Right, I mean, in looking, I’ve been looking
over this issue for the longest and unfortunately if you go with
the lowest bidder you end up getting…
Mr. Quinn: You get what you pay for.
Mr. Roman: …the lowest bidder performance and you get what
you pay for. I just want to make sure that we keep on top and that
the bills don’t start, and that there’s no creative
billing happening.
Mr. Quinn: I review every single invoice that comes into my desk
and if performance wasn’t what it is I’d be the first
one up here…
Mr. Roman: And to be perfectly honest, I mean, I’ve gone
around and spoken to various employees and ask them how is their
vehicle and I hear nothing but good words. Yes, they address my
issues. Some of the employees have been around long enough to remember
the days where it took longer to get their vehicles back and have
to go back two and three times over. So, yes, you do get what you
pay for.
Mr. Quinn: I remember those days very well.
Vice President Tobey: Alright, Tim, thank you very much. Alex,
thank you for your feedback with regards to that topic.
Mr. Russell: Thank you, Tim. Minor point, on page 11 we’re
paying $85 for a World’s Religion text book.
Ms. Jenkins: A reimbursement for a book for a class that one of
our employee’s took.
Mr. Russell: Is that work related?
Mr. Tepper: It’s contractual.
Ms. Jenkins: He’s going for a degree and you know how there
are certain classes, prerequisite classes that you have to take.
This is one of those.
Mr. Russell: Okay, so we’re paying for his degree.
Ms. Jenkins: Well, we’re reimbursing him for classes.
Mr. Russell: Okay, and one final question, there are five payments
to the Morris County Joint Insurance Fund which come out to $374,000
and change. Seems like an awful lot for insurance.
Ms. Jenkins: We take the JIF bill and we allocate it accordingly
to each of the funds, and that’s actually a half year installment.
We pay two installments. One in January…
Mr. Russell: Oh, that’s a half year. I thought it was a
month.
Ms. Jenkins: No that’s a half a year.
Mr. Russell: Okay, I feel more better now.
Ms. Jenkins: Yes, I didn’t think that would help you but
I wanted to be honest.
Mr. Roman: I’m more better.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you, Mr. Russell. Anyone else from
the public with any questions with regards to the Bill List? Moving
on, Approval of the Minutes of Previous Meetings. Mr. Greenbaum,
if you’d be so kind.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
Mr. Greenbaum: I’ll move them.
July 22, 2008 CS – all present
July 22, 2008 WS & PM – all present
Mr. Rattner: Second.
Vice President Tobey: Okay, Roll Call, please?
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
CORRESPONDENCE
LETTERS FROM RESIDENTS/ORGANIZATIONS
1. Letter received July 24, 2008, from Marie S. Ruggiero regarding
the Senior Center Building. PDF Correspondence
2. E-mail received July 31, 2008, from Remington, & Vernick
Engineers regarding its on-going Green Technology Campaign. PDF
Correspondence
3. E-mail received July 31, 2008, from the Public Performance
Measurement and Reporting Network regarding their July 2008 Newsletter.
PDF Correspondence
RESOLUTIONS / ORDINANCES / CORRESPONDENCE OTHER TOWNS
4. Resolution No. R-116-08 received July 23, 2008, from the Town
of Morristown regarding a request to Support and Adopt Legislation
Pertaining to Adoptees’ Access to a Copy of their Original
Birth Certificate. PDF Correspondence
5. Letter received July 28, 2008, from the Township of Parsippany – Troy
Hills regarding a Resolution Opposing Third Round Affordable Housing
Rules as Adopted by the Council on Affordable Housing. PDF Correspondence
6. Resolutions received July 28, 2008, from Washington Township
regarding Land Use. PDF Correspondence
7. Resolution received July 28, 2008, from the Town of Boonton
regarding Opposing Third Round Affordable Housing Rules as adopted
by the Council on Affordable Housing. PDF Correspondence
8. Resolution received July 28, 2008, from the Town of Boonton
regarding Senior Citizens and Disabled Residents Transportation
Assistance Program. PDF Correspondence
9. Resolution received July 28, 2008, from the Town of Boonton
regarding the “Transparency in Government Act.” PDF
Correspondence
DOT / DEP / LOI / HIGHLANDS
10. Letter received July 23, 2008, from the State of New Jersey
Department of Environmental Protection, Enforcement & Assignment
Element, Child Care/Educational Facility Unit regarding NJDEP Child
Care Facility Approval Letter for the Flanders Valley Country Day
School. PDF Correspondence
11. Letter received July 28, 2008, from Civil Engineering, Inc.
regarding a Highlands Exemption Application for a property located
at Block 1101 Lot 2 (Cheri Lane). PDF Correspondence
12. Letter received July 31, 2008, from Omland Engineering Associated,
Inc. regarding a Notice of NJDEP Application for Blue Vista Consulting
L.L.C. PDF Correspondence
13. Letter received August 1, 2008, from the State of New Jersey
Department of Environmental Protection, Bureau of Case Assignment
and Initial Notice, Underground Storage Tanks Unit regarding an
Out of Service Extension Request for Exxon (357 Route 206). PDF
Correspondence
14. Letter received August 1, 2008, from the State of New Jersey
Department of Environmental Protection, Division of Water Supply,
Water Supply Permitting, Bureau of Water Allocation regarding a
Water Allocation Element of Highlands Preservation Area Approval
for Mount Olive Township. PDF Correspondence
15. Letter received August 1, 2008, from Associated Consultants
regarding Highlands Preservation Area Approval application for
Robert Smith Block 12, Lot 4 (226 Drakestown Road). PDF Correspondence
DCA
16. E-mail received July 30, 2008, from the Department of Community
Affairs regarding the GovConnect Update for July 30, 2008. PDF
Correspondence
LEAGUE OF MUNICIPALITIES
17. Letter received July 18, 2008, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding Important New Information from the
Division of Local Government Services. PDF Correspondence
18. E-mail received July 21, 2008, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding a Telephonic Hearing. PDF Correspondence
19. E-mail received July 21, 2008, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding a Federal Update for Period Ending
July 18, 2008. PDF Correspondence
20. E-mail received July 23, 2008, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding Public Safety Related Costs Property
Tax Relief. PDF Correspondence
21. E-mail received July 23, 2008, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding NJ Supreme Court Rules on Filing Period
and Attorneys Fees in OPRA Cases, and NJDEP Offers Local Outreach
Concerning Site Remediation. PDF Correspondence
22. E-mail received July 24, 2008, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding Affordable Housing and Grant News and
Information. PDF Correspondence
23. E-mail received July 24, 2008, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding Washington Watch (House Passes H.R.
3221). PDF Correspondence
24. E-mail received July 28, 2008, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding a 2008 Budget Impact Survey Reminder.
PDF Correspondence
25. E-mail received July 30, 2008, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding H.R. 3221 (foreclosure Crisis Relief).
PDF Correspondence
26. E-mail received July 31, 2008, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding President Signs Foreclosure Belief
Bill and DLGS News. PDF Correspondence
27. Letter received July 31, 2008, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding a statewide conference entitled, “The
New Education Order: School Consolidation, Construction, Funding
and Preschool Expansion.” PDF Correspondence
28. E-mail received July 31, 2008, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding Free Limited Membership in International
Municipal Lawyers Association (IMLA). PDF Correspondence
MORRIS COUNTY
29. Minutes received July 23, 2008, from the Morris County Planning
Board regarding their June 19, 2008 meeting. PDF Correspondence
30. E-mail received July 28, 2008, from the Morris County Board
of Chosen Freeholders regarding County News. PDF Correspondence
31. Letter received July 30, 2008, from the County of Morris Department
of Senior, Disability & Veterans Services Division on Aging,
Disabilities & Veterans regarding August & September 2008
Calendar of Events. PDF Correspondence
NJ DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY
32. Letter received July 21, 2008, from the State of New Jersey
Department of the Treasury, Division of Contract Compliance and
Equal Employment Opportunity, Public Contracts regarding the FY ’09
Appropriations Act. PDF Correspondence
LETTERS FROM LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES
33. E-mail received July 21, 2008, from Congressman Rodney P.
Frelinghuysen regarding House Passes Intelligence Bill, Congress’ Budget
Process Grinds to a Halt, House Passes Legislation Helping Missing
Children, Military Celebrates 60 Years of Integration, Frelinghuysen
Meets with New Jersey Astronaut, Spread the e-News! PDF Correspondence
34. E-mail received July 28, 2008, from Congressman Rodney P.
Frelinghuysen regarding Frelinghuysen Visits Troops in Iraq, Opposes
Federal Bailout, Focuses on Energy Solutions, House Passes Legislation
to Fight Disease Worldwide, Spread the e-News! PDF Correspondence
UTILITIES
35. Letter received July 21, 2008, from Schenck, Price, Smith & King,
LLP regarding the Application of CSC TKR, Inc. d/b/a Cablevision
for Renewal of Certificate of Approval to continue to operate and
maintain a Cable Television System in the Township of Mount Olive.
PDF Correspondence
36. Letter received July 21, 2008, from Schenck, Price, Smith & King,
LLP regarding a supplement of an Application for a Cable Television
Franchise to the petition, exhibits and Application of CSC TKR,
Inc. d/b/a Cablevision for Renewal of Certificate of Approval to
continue to operate and maintain a Cable Television System in the
Township of Mount Olive. PDF Correspondence
37. Letter received July 21, 2008, from the Federal Communications
Commission regarding a Consent Motion for Extension of Time for
Comcast Cable Communications, LLC. PDF Correspondence
38. Letter received July 23, 2008, from Cozen & O’Connor
Attorneys regarding a Petition of New Jersey American Water Company,
Inc. to Change the Level of its Purchased Water Adjustment Clause
and Purchased Sewerage Adjustment Clause. PDF Correspondence
39. Letter received July 25, 2008, from Comcast regarding Channel
Changes. PDF Correspondence
40. Notice received July, 28, 2008, from Pivotal Utility Holdings,
Inc. d/b/a Elizabethtown Gas regarding a revision to its Basic
Gas Supply Service Periodic Rate. PDF Correspondence
41. Letter received July 31, 2008, from Comcast regarding Channel
Changes. PDF Correspondence
COAH
42. Letter received July 30, 2008, from the State of New Jersey
Council on Affordable Housing regarding Affordable Housing Reform
Statute, P.L. 2008, c. 46. PDF Correspondence
MISCELLANEOUS
43. Newsletter received July 30, 2008, from the American Conference
on Diversity regarding 2008 Spring/Summer Updates. PDF Correspondence
ORDINANCES FOR PUBLIC HEARING
Vice President Tobey: Moving on, there’s 43 pieces of Correspondence.
Anyone from Council wish to comment or discuss anything? Moving
on, we’re up to Ordinances for Public Hearing. We have one
Ordinance this evening, Ord. #32-2008. I open the hearing to the
public on Ord. #32-2008, entitled:
Ord. #32-2008 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive to Amend
and Supplement Chapter 102 Entitled “Documents, Fees For
Copies of”, Section 102-5 Entitled “Photocopies (Per
Page)” of the Code of the Township of Mount Olive. (Continue
to 8/19/08)
Vice President Tobey: Mr. Tepper, if you would be so kind.
Mr. Tepper: Yes, Mr. President, I move for adoption and final
approval of Ord. #32-2008.
Mr. Greenbaum: Second.
Vice President Tobey: Ord. #32-2008 has been moved and seconded.
Any Council discussion? Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Tepper: I know we’ve been doing this in response to
a request that came in from a resident, and I really believe that
we are under pricing what this is relative to our costs. With regard
to Mr. Roman’s previous comment, if we looked at the study
that the Clerk has done that we did 10,460 pages approximately,
I think that we should stay with what the ordinance, the State
ordinance allows us to charge for this, and not amend our ordinance.
I would recommend its defeat.
Vice President Tobey: Mr. Roman?
Mr. Roman: Am I correct in assuming that what we are currently
charging is less than what the State mandates.
Mr. Rattner: There is no mandate.
Mr. Tepper: There is under the OPRA Act. There is an amount to
be charged unless you have quantified what the cost is of the calculation
to make the copies, and if we haven’t done that there is
an amount under OPRA that we are allowed to charge…
Mr. Rattner: Allowed, not mandated.
Mr. Tepper: …pursuant to State regulation, not mandated.
Mr. Dorsey: No, the answer to Mr. Roman’s question is the
Township is currently charging the maximum permitted under the
New Jersey regulation. This ordinance will reduce it below the
maximum permitted.
Mr. Tepper: And in fact reduce it beyond, in my opinion, beyond
what our cost is to satisfy the request of which we are getting
more and more requests, and actually probably several weeks dedicated
salary to meet the current request. So I believe we are foolish
to lower our price to less than what our costs are by that significant
amount.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you, Mr. Tepper. Mrs. Labow?
Mrs. Labow: I just want to also add to that. I remember, and correct
me, I’m sure Steve will correct me if I’m wrong but
a few years ago when Lisa had requested another additional Clerk
in her office, a lot of it had to do with the time it took to process
the OPRA requests, and my concern is that when there are different
litigation matters going on so on and so forth as we’ve found
out, that some attorneys will use OPRA as a means of discovery
instead of actually going through the other processes that they
used to in the past. So the cost for these copies is not about
how much it costs to copy it. It’s how much it costs, I mean,
a lot of these documents are not just sitting there. If it’s
something that’s in Sherry’s department, or Frank’s
department, or Catherine’s department you have to send a
memo. You have to request the information. You have to have somebody
get pulled away from their regular job, find the information, copy
it and then call the people and have them come back. So it’s
not just taking a piece of paper and putting it in a photocopy
machine. You have time away from your daily tasks in order to accomplish
the, you know, the OPRA requests.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you, Mrs. Labow. Anyone else from
Council? Roll Call, please?
ROLL CALL – Defeated unanimously
Mr. Dorsey: Ordinance is defeated.
ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING – (2nd reading August 19, 2008)
Vice President Tobey: Ord. #32-2008 is defeated. Moving on, Ordinances
for First Reading and Second Reading for September 9, 2008. The
next item on the Agenda is Ord. #44-2008, entitled:
Ord. #44-2008 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive, County
of Morris, and State of New Jersey Amending Chapter 8, Committees
and Boards, Article XII, Open Space Committee, Section 8-43, Use
of Funds of Open Space Dedicated Trust, of the Revised General
Ordinances.
Vice President Tobey: Mr. Roman?
Mr. Roman: I move that Ord. #44-2008 be introduced by title and
passed on first reading and that a meeting be held on September
9th, 2008 at 7:30 p.m. at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown
Road, Mount Olive, NJ…
Mrs. Masser: Can I just…? I’m sorry. I’m just
going to interrupt. It’s not September 9th. It was an error.
August 19th, 2008 will be Second Reading.
Mrs. Labow: August…?
Vice President Tobey: August 19th, 2008. Thank you.
Mrs. Labow: Thank you.
Mr. Tepper: So amend your date.
Mr. Roman: I amend my date to August 19th, 2008 for a public hearing
consideration of said reading and passage of said ordinance and
that the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available
said ordinance in accordance with the requirements of law.
Mr. Rattner: Second.
Vice President Tobey: Ord. #44-2008 has been seconded. Any Council
discussion? Roll Call, please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
Vice President Tobey: We’re up to Ord. #45-2008, entitled:
Ord. #45-2008 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive, Morris
County, New Jersey,
Establishing Fees for the Renewal of Alcoholic Beverage Licenses.
Vice President Tobey: Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: I move that Ord. #45-2008 be introduced by title and
passed on first reading and that a meeting be held on August 19th,
2008 at 7:30 p.m. at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown
Road, Mount Olive, NJ for a public hearing consideration of said
reading and passage of said ordinance and that the Clerk be directed
to publish, post and make available said ordinance in accordance
with the requirements of law.
Vice President Tobey: Second?
Mr. Tepper: Second.
Vice President Tobey: Any Council discussion? Mr. Roman?
Mr. Roman: I reiterate, just like as in the previous ordinance
that we knocked down, Ord. #32-2008 where we could identify that
there are costs associated with delivering a service. I think that
the Alcoholic Beverage fee is not something that we can very easily
quantify that it’s costing us more than what we’re
charging to deliver the paperwork to process whatever is required.
Especially in this year where businesses have slowed down and where
businesses like retail and restaurants and the like that I have
recently been going to that the wait is no longer there. They no
longer have to wait. This is not the time to burden them with an
additional tax increase because we can call it a fee, but this
is a tax increase.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you.
Mr. Roman: So until I am convinced that it is costing the Township,
it’s costing us more to deliver this service, I move and
recommend that it not be adopted.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you, Mr. Roman. Mr. Rattner?
Mr. Rattner: I was wrestling with some of the comments that Mr.
Roman has. However, I will vote to pass on First Reading and go
to the public hearing because I always like to see if the public
is really concerned. Mr. Roman, one of the things that does come
up is that we have, we spend a disproportionate amount of our resources
in our Police department, things like that, for alcohol related
type issues whether it be DWI, whether it be other issues, domestic
violence and that type of thing. So I put that in there because
that’s really the total cost. I’m not saying I disagree
with you and I’m not sure how I’m going to vote next
week, however, I do have to look at there are other costs that
are, we could say are directly related to alcohol. With that, I’m
really undecided at this point but I appreciate what you said.
Mr. Roman: If I may interject on that, I mean, if you’re,
and I agree with you. I think that driving under the influence
is an atrocious act. The individuals that do commit those offenses
are heavily fined and this is not something that is going to alleviate
that or be compensated for the cost.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you. Anyone else on Council? Roll
Call, please.
ROLL CALL – Passed with the exception Mr. Roman voted no
Vice President Tobey: We’re up to Ord. #46-2008, entitled:
Ord. #46-2008 Bond Ordinance Providing for Various Capital Improvements
of the Township of Mount Olive, in the County of Morris, New Jersey,
Appropriating the Aggregate Amount of $1,363,145 Therefor and Authorizing
the Issuance of $934,206 Bonds or Notes of the Township to Finance
Part of the Cost Thereof.
Vice President Tobey: Mr. Rattner?
Mr. Rattner: You give me the money one.
Vice President Tobey: Rightfully so.
Mr. Rattner: But we all agreed on it. I move that Ord. #46-2008
be introduced by title and passed on first reading and that a meeting
be held on August 19th, 2008 at 7:30 p.m. at the Municipal Building,
204 Flanders-Drakestown Road, Mount Olive, NJ for a public hearing
consideration of said reading and passage of said ordinance and
that the Clerk be directed to publish, post and make available
said ordinance in accordance with the requirements of law.
Vice President Tobey: Is there a second?
Mr. Roman: Second.
Vice President Tobey: Any Council discussion? Roll Call, please.
Mr. Ireland: Can the public ask a question on this?
Mr. Dorsey: Not now.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
Mrs. Labow: Can I just explain why he can’t…?
Mr. Dorsey: This is First Reading. There is no public hearing
in connection with a First Reading.
Mrs. Labow: But he could ask a question at the public portion.
Vice President Tobey: The public portion.
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS AGENDA:
Resolutions on the Consent Agenda List are considered to be routine
and non-controversial by the Township Council and will be approved
by one motion (one vote). There will be no separate discussion
or debate on each of these resolutions except for the possibility
of brief clarifying statements that may be offered. If one or more
Council member requests, any individual resolution on the Consent
Agenda may be removed from the Consent Agenda List and acted on
separately.
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
1. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing the Renewal of an Alcoholic Beverage License
for the 2008-2009 Licensing Period. PDF Res
2. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Requesting a Binding Referendum Be Placed on the Mount Olive
General Election Ballot for 2008 Relative to the Township’s
Open Space Tax. PDF Res
3. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing the Settlement of Litigation Entitled Township
of Mount Olive V. Britari Management (Perkins) PDF Res
4. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Canceling the Year-End Tax Penalty Assessed to Block 4101,
Lot 3. PDF Res
5. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive confirming ownership of the Flanders Water System by the
Township of Mount Olive. PDF Res
6. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Requesting Approval from the Director of the Division of
Local Government Services for insertion of a Specific Item of Revenue
into the 2008 Municipal Budget (17,628 for a Planning Assistance
Grant) PDF Res
7. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Revising the Cancellation of a General Capital Ordinance.
PDF Res
8. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Extending the Grace Period for Payment of the August 2008
Quarterly Tax Bills. PDF Res
9. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing the Omission from Tax Sale Certain Properties.
PDF Res
10. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive to Cancel Taxes on Various Properties Foreclosed by the Township
of Mount Olive. PDF Res
11. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing the Withholding from Tax Sale Special Assessment
Installments Not Yet Due. PDF Res
12. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing the Omission from Tax Sale Block 3109, Lot 9.
PDF Res
13. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing the Cancellation of Taxes on Block 4500 Lot 8 & Block
4500 Lot 8 QFARM 155 Flanders-Netcong Road. PDF Res
Vice President Tobey: Does anyone on Council wish to have any
removed to Non Consent? Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Tepper: Number 3.
Vice President Tobey: Mr. Roman?
Mr. Roman: Number 2.
Vice President Tobey: Number 2, thank you. Does anyone from the
public wish to be heard with regards to the Consent Resolutions?
PUBLIC PORTION ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS – none
Mr. Ireland: I’d like to comment on 2, but is that going
to be…
Vice President Tobey: That’ll be next. At this time I would
ask Mr. Rattner to please move Consent Resolutions 1 and 4 through
13.
Mr. Rattner: Thank you, Mr. President, Acting President. I move
Resolutions 1 and 4 through 13.
Vice President Tobey: Is there a second?
Mr. Tepper: Second.
Vice President Tobey: Roll Call, please.
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS - none
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
RESOLUTIONS NON CONSENT
Vice President Tobey: We’re up to Resolution #2, Non Consent.
I believe that was Mr. Roman.
2. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Requesting a Binding Referendum Be Placed on the Mount Olive
General Election Ballot for 2008 Relative to the Township’s
Open Space Tax. PDF Res
Mr. Roman: Yes, the reason I requested we put that on Non Consent
is just I do not wish to pass the opportunity to increase the taxes
on the residents of Mount Olive. Currently, right now, because
of the reassessment the Open Space Tax is an equivalent of 1.6%
and putting it back up to the 3% is basically doubling the Open
Space Tax. Thanks to the Highlands Council this tax is not as urgent
as it used to be in the past. I am a great proponent of Open Space.
I like what the Open Space Committee is using the money for but
I do not wish to double resident’s taxes.
Mr. Dorsey: So there is no misunderstanding, this resolution places
a question on the ballot so that the voters…
Mr. Roman: I am agreeing…
Mr. Dorsey: …of Mount Olive will be able to make that decision.
The passing of this resolution does not take it back to the 3%.
This simply places it on the ballot for the voters to decide.
Mr. Tepper: It actually has the affect of what you’re looking
for, giving the voters the chance to keep it where it is rather
than forcing it to double as the current ordinance forces.
Mr. Roman: No, the current ordinance does not force it.
Mr. Tepper: The current ordinance would force it to double because
it’s maintained at 3% on the new valuation, and therefore
we’re giving the voters the chance to bring it back to 1.5%
and keep their costs consistent.
Mr. Roman: The way I got explained to at the last meeting was
that if we did nothing it would stay at 1.5%. Am I correct, Sherry?
Mrs. Labow: We don’t have a choice, though.
Ms. Jenkins: It will remain at what it is right now because we
got the opinion from the Division of Local Government Services
that because of the revaluation this is the effective, we have
to deal with the effective tax rate. So it will remain what it
is.
Mr. Roman: Which is 1.6?
Ms. Jenkins: It’s 1.6. The County rounded it to 1.5, you
know, whatever it is. They rounded it. So I think the issue comes
into play wherein the public originally voted for 3 cents and so
the feeling is do you want to go back to them and say do you want
to retain the 3 cents.
Mr. Roman: So am I correct in assuming that if this question is
not put on the ballot, the tax rate would be 1.5?
Mr. Dorsey: Yes, that’s right.
Ms. Jenkins: Yes, it would remain.
Mr. Roman: It would remain 1.5.
Vice President Tobey: This gives the taxpayers the option to choose,
correct?
Ms. Jenkins: Yes.
Mr. Roman: Right, and I just want to make sure that by the difference
of one vote that everybody’s taxes, Open Space tax does not
get doubled because that’s what… Am I correct in assuming,
am I correct in my assertion that if this question on the ballot
gets passed that the amount of Open Space tax levy is doubled?
Ms. Jenkins: Yes, it will.
Mr. Dorsey: It will go back to the 3 cents.
Ms. Jenkins: Exactly.
Mr. Roman: It’ll go back to the 3 cents but because of the…
Mr. Dorsey: Yes, you’re right.
Mr. Roman: I just want to make correct that my assumption that
if this question is passed on the ballot, we are effectively doubling
the Open Space levy.
Mr. Tepper: We are not. That’s the whole point. The residents
are.
Mr. Roman: Right, but if we allow it to go on the ballot by one
vote, this tax levy could be doubled. I’m assuming…
Mr. Tepper: So you’re saying that you would prefer to make
the decision rather than allow the residents to make it?
Mr. Roman: I’d prefer, yes, if we’re a representative
government. I’m representing, I’m here to represent
a majority of the taxpayers. Unfortunately the majority don’t
vote and if I felt that 80% of the residents are going to go out
and vote then I would be more than glad to give them the opportunity,
but in a day and age when we’re getting around 20-25% of
residents that actually go out and vote I want to at least be able
to give the other 80% the opportunity of not having their Open
Space tax doubled. If I felt that we needed the Open Space funds
to stop development, to stop the increase in students going to
the Schools, to stop the ever increasing burden from the School
system, then I would be all for doubling the tax.
Vice President Tobey: Mayor, did you have something?
Mayor Scapicchio: No, Sherry spoke for me.
Vice President Tobey: Mrs. Labow?
Mrs. Labow: The one thing I just want to point out is that in
the past two years I think it was, or Sherry, three years that
we’ve used surplus in the Open Space fund to offset the bond
debt. So if we do have more money in the Open Space fund, that
would go towards the bond debt. So either you’re going to
have it in Open Space or you’re going to have it in the general
fund. I don’t think it’s actually going to be a reduction
in taxes.
Mr. Tepper: Regardless, I think the appropriate thing is to let
the taxpayers make an informed decision because they’re the
one’s paying the taxes.
Mr. Roman: Right, and if that’s the line that we should
put everything on the ballot, do you want the sewer fees to go
up? Do you want…?
Mr. Tepper: Mandated by ordinance that they be self liquidating.
This is a different issue. It’s applicable to every resident
in town.
Mrs. Labow: And they originally voted on it.
Vice President Tobey: Mr. Ireland, please state your name and
address for the record.
PUBLIC PORTION ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS
Mr. Rattner: Why don’t you give him his address too?
Scott Ireland, 6 Eric Court, Flanders: On this issue, a couple
of things have been raised in the conversation. One, I take small
exception to what Sherry was saying about the voters voting for
the 3%...
Ms. Jenkins: Three cents.
Mr. Ireland: Three cents, I would argue that they voted for a
set amount to be raised that happened to reflect a 3%, or 3 cent
value and that, what is the need that has arisen to double the
amount of money raised? Is there one?
Mr. Tepper: None.
Mr. Ireland: Then why would you even consider putting it in front
of the public for a vote?
Mr. Tepper: Scott, personally I think we should offer them the
option to keep it where it is, raise it or eliminate it because
the people should have the right to reassess their original opinion
and if people feel that Mr. Tepper (Cont’d): there is enough
money or enough space for Open Space, perhaps that would be voted
on. So I don’t think it’s our right to tell the residents
where it should go. They should make the decision.
Vice President Tobey: You know what, I absolutely agree with Mr.
Tepper. We’re giving the public the option, we’re giving
them the ability to make that decision and I believe that’s
the right course.
Mr. Tepper: I believe Mr. Dorsey appropriately put down he didn’t
want a three-way decision.
Mr. Ireland: Can I vote on, like Alex was saying, can I vote on
some other parts of the budget then with that rationale?
Mr. Tepper: I’d like to vote on the School budget.
Mr. Dorsey: No, because there are only certain things that can
go up on referendum.
Mr. Ireland: Excuse me?
Mr. Dorsey: There are only certain items that can go up on referendum.
The Open Space tax happens to be one of those because it was created
through referendum. You can’t vote on every item in the budget.
Mr. Ireland: This just seems that because of the reassessment,
reval that the Town went through we’re going to take the
opportunity much like Alex said earlier on another matter, because
we can. We’re going to try to double the Open Space tax and
that seems like a pretty poor way to get a 100% increase by the
Town.
Mrs. Labow: I have a question.
Vice President Tobey: Mrs. Labow. Thank you.
Mrs. Labow: Why did it have to go to referendum to begin with
to bring it in?
Mr. Dorsey: It was a statute that provided that.
Mrs. Labow: A statute provided that. So we could not have just
created an Open Space fund?
Mr. Rattner: The reason they go by referendum is it provided a
secure steady funding source, otherwise we could have setup something
and it would have been up for debate every time that we did the
budget. We wanted to be assured of having a certain amount so that
we could invest in the future and use it for leverage like we’ve
been doing. So there was a real good reason for doing it that way,
otherwise in a bad year we would have just eliminated the Open
Space tax to reduce taxes in general.
Mrs. Labow: So since it went out to referendum to begin with and
it was voted on at 3 cents, that’s where the ordinance stands?
Mr. Tepper: No, that was the second time. We had three referendums
all together.
Ms. Jenkins: Did we actually vote, it was voted at 3 cents not
a dollar amount, right? It was 3 cents.
Mr. Tepper: It was 3 cents.
Mrs. Labow: It was 3 cents.
Ms. Jenkins: Okay, I just wanted to be clear. That’s what
I thought.
Mr. Rattner: Right, originally, we adjusted it and we increased
it once. We had to change the wording once because of Mr. Bonte
and because he wanted it clear and we found out it wasn’t
that clear. We’ve had the same issues the last time we went
through the reval, and in fact, that time I think we had a problem
because it was calculated wrong at the County level besides.
Mrs. Labow: So basically we have to do it because it went out
to the voters to begin with and we have to…
Mr. Rattner: No.
Mr. Dorsey: No, no, no. Statutorily we are required to do it by
referendum.
Mr. Rattner: We don’t have to do anything.
Vice President Tobey: Mr. Roman?
Mr. Roman: Sherry, how much, were all the funds from last year’s
Open Space fund depleted?
Ms. Jenkins: We have about $600,000 in the Open Space Trust but
we do have encumbrances and things against that.
Mr. Tepper: But did we expend from the fund last year an amount
equal to what we brought in last year, or was it that we had monies
left over from before?
Mr. Dorsey: That $600,000 just came from the buyout of Charters
Farm, didn’t it?
Mr. Tepper: Right.
Mr. Tepper: No $600,000 also came from our tax.
Ms. Jenkins: We got $600,000 but we had to pay half of that to
the County. We got to keep $326,000 of it. Half of it went to the
County.
Mr. Tepper: And we used it to pay down debt anyway.
Ms. Jenkins: Yes, but we also expect that once we sell the property
that we’ll get funds from that as well that’ll go back
into the Open Space trust.
Mayor Scapicchio: We normally generate more than we spend.
Ms. Jenkins: Yes, which is why a few years ago Steve came up with
the idea of why don’t we use some of that revenue to offset
the debt service. That’s how the process started because
we did have a lot of money in there.
Mr. Rattner: Well, I think what it was was that we said we were
using it for leverage and what we were starting to do is we were
using it for down payments and using the general fund to pay back.
It was becoming such a burden and that we didn’t want to
do it. It didn’t make any sense and it’s not what we
told the people.
Mr. Roman: Sounds like social security.
Ms. Jenkins: Our debt service this year was $1,040,000 related
to Open Space projects which Colleen just asked me about today.
We used $1,026,000 of the Open Space this year. It’s not
that the debt is not there.
Mrs. Labow: Right.
Mr. Roman: Am I correct in assuming that right now if this tax
was left the same do you foresee in the near future that there
will be projects that could not be funded because we would not
have enough Open Space funds.
Ms. Jenkins: We’re not going to be able to continue to take
$1 million from the Open Space trust to put in the current fund
as we did this year. It’s not going to be able to remain
at $1 million because right now we only have about $600,000 and
again, that’s before any money we have encumbered for projects.
So at a minimum I know going into next year’s budget that
we’re certainly going to use far less than $1 million to
come from Open Space to offset the debt in the current fund.
Vice President Tobey: Sherry?
Mrs. Labow: That’ll come from…
Mr. Roman: So we’re using Open Space funds to offset…
Mr. Tepper: Debt associated Open Space.
Ms. Jenkins: To offset Open Space related projects.
Mr. Roman: Okay.
Ms. Jenkins: So we had $1,040,000 in projects related to Open
Space, Turkey Brook, B&H, Crown Towers, and we used $1,026,000.
I don’t foresee that we’re going to be able to do that
next year.
Vice President Tobey: Alright, Sherry, thank you. Roll Call, please.
ROLL CALL – Passed with the exception Mr. Roman voted no
Vice President Tobey: We’re up to Resolution #3, I believe.
It’s Non Consent. Mr. Tepper?
3. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing the Settlement of Litigation Entitled Township
of Mount Olive V. Britari Management (Perkins) PDF Res
Mr. Tepper: Yes, the only point I wanted to make with Resolution
#3 was actually to congratulate Mr. Dorsey once again for finally
reaching resolution on this matter with Perkins, as I believe it
was the last item that was left for recovery on the sewer items.
He’s brought in an extensive amount of revenue in resolving
this as well as protecting us against future litigation.
Vice President Tobey: Anyone from the public with regards to #3?
Roll Call, please.
Mrs. Masser: Mr. Greenbaum?
Mr. Greenbaum: Phil, you have to move and second it first.
Vice President Tobey: I’m sorry.
Mr. Greenbaum: Did you move and second, was there a move and second
on #2 as well?
Mayor Scapicchio: No.
Mr. Dorsey: I think Mr. Tepper moved it.
Mr. Greenbaum: Did he?
Mr. Tepper: I moved it but no, it wasn’t seconded.
Vice President Tobey: Alright, Mr. Tepper, #2.
Mr. Greenbaum: Michelle, who do you have as seconding #2?
Mayor Scapicchio: Nobody.
Mr. Greenbaum: I don’t think it was moved.
Mrs. Masser: I think we should redo it. I don’t have anybody
seconding. No, I’m sorry. Steve and Russ did the 1 and 4
through 13.
Mr. Greenbaum: Right, I don’t think two is moved.
Mr. Tepper: Two hasn’t been moved. I thought that’s
what Mr. Roman was doing.
Mr. Roman: I’ll second it.
Vice President Tobey: You move Consent Resolution #2.
Mr. Tepper: You move #2.
Mr. Roman: Okay.
Mr. Tepper: You can vote again. I’ll second it.
Mr. Dorsey: Alright, Roman moved it, Tepper seconded it, #2 Roll
Call.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you.
ROLL CALL – Passed with the exception Mr. Roman voted no
Vice President Tobey: Thank you, Mr. Greenbaum.
Mr. Dorsey: Now somebody has got to move #3.
Mr. Greenbaum: I’ll move #3.
Mr. Rattner: Second.
Vice President Tobey: Roll Call.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
MOTIONS
Vice President Tobey: Okay, we’re up to Motions. Motion
#1:
1. Approval of Raffle Application #2259 & #2260 for Jewish
Center Mount Olive and Approval of Raffle Application #2261 for
PTA Mount Olive
Vice President Tobey: Mr. Greenbaum?
Mr. Greenbaum: I’ll move it.
Mrs. Labow: Second.
Vice President Tobey: It’s been moved and seconded. Roll
Call, please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
Vice President Tobey: We’re up to the Bill List. Mr. Tepper?
2. Bill List
Mr. Tepper: Yes, I move for approval to pay the bills.
Vice President Tobey: Is there a second.
Mr. Roman: Second.
ROLL CALL – Passed with the exception Mrs. Labow voted no
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS - none
Vice President Tobey: Mayor?
Mayor Scapicchio: None.
OLD BUSINESS
Vice President Tobey: Thank you. Any Old Business?
Mrs. Labow: I have Old Business.
Vice President Tobey: Mrs. Labow?
Mrs. Labow: I don’t know if Jack left or not…
Mr. Dorsey: He did.
Mrs. Labow: Did he?
Mr. Tepper: We told him to.
Mrs. Labow: I know, but I had to talk about, I kept saying don’t
let him go we have to talk about this other issue. Awhile ago we
had asked the Tax Assessor to review having the rolling assessment
so I was hoping to, I called Sherry too, I was hoping we would
have a chance to talk with Jack about it. In view of the tax and
the increases that some residents have had, decreases that others
have had, I really think that we should put it on the table to
discuss having the rolling assessment each year. I think it brings
a lot of stability to the taxes for the residents and I just want
to open it up for discussion. Russ has some comments.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you. Mr. Tepper?
Mr. Tepper: I would support it. I think that there was some initial
discussion about not doing it. I think if you look at the fact
that it would prevent having large changes either positive or negative.
It would recover a cost based on current market value and sales
within the neighborhoods. I believe that the incremental costs
can be worked on through the fact that you don’t necessarily
have to hire full time people to continue to do the updates as
well as the fact that it would prevent having to go out and bond
for $800,000 to $1 million the next time we have to do the reval.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you. Mayor, please?
Mayor Scapicchio: Jack issued a memo on this several months back
and we got no response, but if the Council wishes to discuss it
we’ll get it back on the Agenda when Bill gets back from
vacation.
Mr. Tepper: We would appreciate that.
Vice President Tobey: Mrs. Labow?
Mrs. Labow: I actually did respond to that and I also called Jack,
I think it was two weeks ago, and questioned him about it. My concern
is the fact that right now the residential values are very high,
commercials are low and my concern was it’s going to possibly
be another ten years before we have to do another reval. I asked
Jack what do we do in a situation like that. He said that we could
do what they call an assessment, a reassessment. It’s not
a full-blown revaluation where we would have to apply to the State
or the County assuring that the residential property values have
stayed the same although commercial have gone up. That would be
half the cost. So basically we’re looking at that we had
about $600,000 for the reval and maybe $300,000 for a reassessment.
I understand that the concern was that it costs money to do a rolling
assessment, but I think that it would be money well spent because
we’re going to pay it anyway.
Mayor Scapicchio: Colleen, like I said, if the Council wishes
to discuss that we’ll put a presentation together and it’s
a policy decision by this body.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you, Mayor.
Mr. Roman: I would like to see information on that.
Mrs. Labow: Well, can we put it on for the next meeting?
Mayor Scapicchio: Well, you can’t put it on for the next
meeting. Bill’s on vacation and I’m going for two weeks
starting tomorrow.
Ms. Jenkins: I’ll send Bill an e-mail and I’ll speak
to him about it. It’s probably more like the beginning of
September.
Mr. Rattner: You want to make sure they have enough time to prepare
for it and get all the facts.
Mayor Scapicchio: You want to do it right.
Mrs. Labow: Absolutely.
Vice President Tobey: Any other Old Business? Mr. Roman?
Mr. Roman: Not to beat a dead horse but I wanted to bring back
up the two issues regarding the liquor fee, and just to have this
body understand that we are representatives and that we represent
the taxpayers. Just because we can raise a fee and raise a tax
does not mean that we should. The only time I would wholeheartedly
support raising a fee is because it directly costs us to deliver
a said service. The same thing goes with the Open Space. I don’t
see the need to double the amount of Open Space funds and I would
hate to have all of the taxpayers have their Open Space tax doubled
because a ballot question was passed by one vote of possibly 20%
of voters.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you, Mr. Roman. Any New Business?
NEW BUSINESS
Mrs. Labow: I have New Business.
Vice President Tobey: Mrs. Labow.
Mrs. Labow: I think Michelle gave everybody a copy of the information
for the Morris Canal application to Morris County. Kathy Murphy
called me today and asked me to present this to the Council. This
application from Morris County requires that the applicant non-profit
have the project discussed in a public meeting. Legal advertising
is not required. This is to, we were going to do it on August 19th
but Laura Szwack is on vacation. Bryan Morell of the Canal Society
called and wanted us to please do this today so they could meet
their schedules and the County is also requiring the Mayor’s
signature that the meeting was discussed at a public session, and
includes a portion for comments. Kathy has given that information
to Michelle for Mayor Scapicchio. What it is, Morris Canal Society
has filed an application to Morris County for the acquisition of
Block 403 Lot 2. The property is off of Waterloo Valley Road north
of the train tracks. This is down past Gividaun. It’s not
the canal part that’s closer to Route 80. It’s further
down over the tracks. It’s also in, it’s in the Preservation,
the Highlands Preservation. It’s Wetlands and basically what
they are looking to do with the Canal Society is to add to property
that they already have. It’s not going to cost Mount Olive
anything. We just have to discuss in the public format and hopefully
have the approval of the Mayor for them to go forward. It’s
just for them to add on to their estate, their property.
Vice President Tobey: Alright, thank you, Mrs. Labow. Any other
New Business? Any Legal Matters, Mr. Dorsey?
LEGAL MATTERS
Mr. Dorsey: I would just say this. The greatest favor that the
Dattolo family ever did for the Township is when they hired this
Engineer that went out to prove that we did not apply the system
uniformly. Well, he dropped, in essence, and we have collected,
we made arrangements to collect some $282,000 as a result of that
and I’m just praying that somebody else does that shortly
so my collection activities can continue.
Mrs. Labow: Well, can’t we do that ourselves?
Mr. Tepper: You make a great collections attorney.
Mr. Rattner: I think one thing so people don’t get the wrong
idea, what he did find out, because I think he checked about approximately
100 commercial properties in Budd Lake and found 92% of them that
he couldn’t find any issues with and he said 7% could have
been calculated differently. That’s what we went back after.
So I think that also has to be said that 92% or 93% were spot on.
Mr. Dorsey: For $282,000 I didn’t even get a trial.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you, Mr. Dorsey.
Mr. Rattner: Well, sometimes we get lucky.
Mr. Tepper: He’s disappointed.
Vice President Tobey: Council Reports. Recreation Report, Mr.
Roman?
COUNCIL REPORTS
Recreation Liaison Report
Mr. Roman: I’d like to report that the Carnival was a success.
It seems it was extremely better than last year. The plethora of
food and the variety of food was definitely noted by my scale two
days later, and I’d just like to applaud the efforts of Jill
Daggon and the Recreation department. I look forward to seeing
her report on it.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you. Board of Health, Mrs. Labow.
Board of Health Report
Mrs. Labow: We meet in two weeks.
Vice President Tobey: Planning Board, Mr. Tepper?
Planning Board Report
Mr. Tepper: Meets on the 14th.
Vice President Tobey: Board of Adjustment, Mr. Roman?
Board of Adjustment Liaison Report
Mr. Roman: Did not meet.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you. Open Space, Mrs. Labow.
Open Space Committee Report
Mrs. Labow: We meet next week, two weeks.
Vice President Tobey: Legislative, Mr. Rattner?
Legislative Committee Report
Mr. Rattner: Nothing to report.
Vice President Tobey: Pride Committee, Mrs. Labow?
Pride Committee Liaison Report
Mr. Labow: Again, we meet in two weeks.
Board of Education Liaison Report
Vice President Tobey: Alright, Board of Education. The only thing
to report on is that there is a closed session meeting this coming
Monday to review the applicants. From what I understand there are
20 plus applicants for the Superintendent’s position and
I believe three of them are actually from within the system currently.
Lake Environment Issues?
Lake/Environment Issues Committee
Mr. Rattner: Nothing to report.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you. Safety, Mr. Greenbaum?
Safety Committee Liaison
Mr. Greenbaum: Meeting was cancelled due to a death in Fred Detoro’s
family. I believe his grandmother passed away.
Vice President Tobey: Finance Committee, Mr. Rattner?
Finance Committee Report
Mr. Rattner: Nothing to report.
Vice President Tobey: Economic Development?
Economic Development Committee Report
Mr. Rattner: Nothing to report.
Vice President Tobey: Solid Waste, Mrs. Labow?
Solid Waste Advisory Committee Report
Mrs. Labow: We meet in September.
Vice President Tobey: Library Board, Mr. Tepper?
Library Board Liaison
Mr. Tepper: Nothing to report.
Vice President Tobey: Thank you. Does anyone from the public wish
to be heard? Yes, sir.
PUBLIC PORTION
Scott Ireland, 6 Eric Court: Back to Ord. #46-2008. I’m
not a finance guy. I just have a couple of questions on it. For
the 900 and some thousand dollars, is that taken out in one note
or is that a series broken down into smaller notes for the purchases
that are listed in here?
Ms. Jenkins: It really depends how we spend the money. I don’t
go out to bond or note until, I try to do it after the fact so
that I know that we actually have spent the money, not that we
just plan to spend it and, you know, maybe we plan to spend 50
and we’re only going to spend 30. I typically don’t
know. I typically go to bond because I am more an aggressive pay
down type of person and the bond rates have been really decent.
So that’s the process that we’ve followed since I’ve
been here.
Mr. Ireland: So for each individual, the purposes of all these
capital improvements, is it an individual bond for each purchase?
Ms. Jenkins: Well, for instance we have a bond sale that’s
coming up in a couple of weeks and what we do is we look at all
of the capital projects or the capital ordinances that we have
approved. If we spent money on them then obviously we need to reimburse
ourselves in terms of cash and we’ll include that in our
bond sale. It’s really a number of projects. We don’t
go out to bond for only one project.
Mr. Ireland: Okay, and the typical length of the bonds that we
go out and get are…?
Ms. Jenkins: It depends on the useful life of the projects. Usually…
Mr. Ireland: Therein lies my, because I see you have a lot of
five year useful lives.
Ms. Jenkins: Yes, exactly. Well, see there’s…
Mr. Ireland: You get a five year note? Is that how it works, or
bond?
Ms. Jenkins: Well, note you can actually go out and renew up to
ten years but like I said, we don’t typically do notes here.
We’ll actually go out to bond so that we pay them down and
we’re aggressive about it and we don’t have all of
these notes floating out there that we make minimum payments on
and whatnot.
Mr. Ireland: But the note, the bond doesn’t exceed the useful
purpose of the…
Ms. Jenkins: It’ can’t. Yes.
COUNCIL COMMENTS
Vice President Tobey: Thank you, Mr. Ireland. Anyone else from
the public? Does anyone on Council have any comments? Seeing none,
at this time we’re going to move into executive session.
When we return there is going to be no further action taken, simply
an adjournment. Mrs. Labow, would you please move us into executive
session?
Mrs. Labow: Thank you. In accordance with Sections 7 & 8 of
the Open Public Meetings Act we are going to move into executive
session to discuss DPW Performance.
ADJOURNMENT - Motion was made and seconded, all in favor and none
opposed, the meeting went into executive session at 9:03 pm.
EXECUTIVE SESSION – DPW Performance
ADJOURNMENT - Motion was made and seconded, all in favor and none
opposed, the meeting was adjourned at 9:26 pm.
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Raymond T. Perkins, Council President
I, MICHELLE MASSER, Deputy Township Clerk of the Township of Mount
Olive do hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes is a true and
correct copy of the Minutes approved at a legally convened meeting
of the Mount Olive Township Council duly held on August 19, 2008.
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Michelle Masser, Deputy Township Clerk
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