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MOUNT OLIVE TOWNSHIP COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES -
July 21, 2009
The Public Meeting of the Mount Olive Township Council was called
to Order at 10:51 pm by Vice President Labow with the Pledge of
Allegiance.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE & MOMENT OF REFLECTION
OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT ANNOUNCEMENT
According to the Open Public Meetings Act, adequate notice of this
meeting has been given to the Mount Olive Chronicle. Notice has
been posted at the Municipal Building, 204 Flanders-Drakestown
Road, Mount Olive Township, New Jersey and notices were sent
to those requesting the same.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mr. Tobey, Mrs. Labow, Mr. Rattner, Mr. Roman, Mr. Greenbaum,
Mr. Perkins
Absent: None
Also Present: David Scapicchio, Mayor; Bill Sohl, Business Administrator;
Dominic DiYanni, Township Attorney; Lisa Lashway, Township Clerk;
Sherry Maniscalco, CFO;
Public Hearing on the 2009 Morris County Open Space Grant Applications
Vice President Labow: The next thing on the Agenda is a Proclamation.
I’m going to pass that over for now, Mayor Scapicchio. We’ll
do that right after Kathy Murphy has her presentation because we
have some guests waiting patiently. The first item, we have a Public
Hearing on the 2009 Morris County Open Space Grant Applications.
Do you want to speak about this before we…?
Mrs. Murphy: Yes, I will make this very brief because we’ve
been here for three hours. I have two organizations. There are
two applications this year for Morris County Open Space. A Public
Hearing is required. So that has been legally noticed and we’re
going to move into that. I’m going to invite Barbara Davis
up from Land Conservancy of New Jersey.
Vice President Labow: I had sent the information to everybody
on Council regarding this. I think everybody got that.
Mrs. Murphy: And as you are all aware, there have been negotiations
going on for the Mount Olive Complex property. So there is currently,
in negotiations, a deal for over 500 acres which represents a portion
of the land owned by Mount Olive Complex. So this is Barbara Davis.
She is the Assistant Director of the Land Conservancy and she is
going to fill you in on that. Hopefully we’ll get your blessing
so that we can file the application. Mount Olive will be the co-applicant
because we will take a portion of that land for Mount Olive, and
the rest will be held, owned and operated and maintained by the
Land Conservancy. Barbara?
Vice President Labow: Thank you for coming Barbara.
Barbara Haskins Davis: My name is Barbara Heskins Davis. I’m
Vice President of Programs of the Land Conservancy of New Jersey.
I’m going to present the application tonight. I’m happy
to answer questions on the application, and I thank the Township
Council for persevering and having us here this evening. This is
the South Branch preserved project. I have a map in front. I’m
hoping you can see it well. The properties highlighted in yellow
are the ones that are going to be co-owned by the Land Conservancy
of New Jersey and the New Jersey Water Supply Authority. It’s
505 acres. Mount Olive is going to be owning the property that’s
highlighted in orange that’s next to open space. It’s
31 acres. In total, this project represents 536 acres. We’ve
been negotiating with the owners of Mount Olive complex for close
to a year now. They’re willing sellers and we’re very
pleased with the progress on our negotiations and the application
that’s before you. The Land Conservancy of New Jersey and
the New Jersey Water Supply Authority are going to co-own and co-manage
the 505 acres. It’s going to be managed for its water quality
value. One and a half miles of the South Branch of the Raritan
River run through the South Branch Preserve. It is the headwaters
for the Raritan River which is one of the largest rivers in the
State of New Jersey, and one of the largest sources of public drinking
water supply, supplying over one million residents. The 505 acres
plus the 31 acres that will be owned by Mount Olive represent the
headwaters of this River. Sixty percent of the site is mature hardwood
forest. It has magnificent scenic views. There are tilled agricultural
fields and diverse wetlands. It’s really a gem. I can’t
speak highly enough of it. We’re very pleased with this application
and we represent a large partnership team of which Mount Olive
has been a leader. This application is supported by the Land Conservancy
of New Jersey. We’re going to be contributing our nonprofit
funding. We’re asking Mount Olive to participate with your
Green Acres planning incentive funds. The Morris County Municipal
Utility Authority and the New Ms. Haskins Davis (cont’d):
Jersey Water Supply Authority are funding partners as well, and
clearly this application is requesting funding from the Morris
County Preservation Trust. The application and the acquisition
of the property is the first step. It’s a large signature
property and it has to be managed and managed well for its water
quality value. With that in mind, the Land Conservancy of New Jersey
and Mount Olive have been heading up a leadership team to develop
a management plan for this property. On that leadership team is
Trout Unlimited, the Water Supply Authority, the Morris County
MUA, Mount Olive, the Conservancy, New Jersey Audubon Society,
South Branch Watershed Association and the New Jersey Department
of Environmental Protection, Division of Fish and Wildlife. The
Conservancy and the Water Supply Authority want to have an action
plan in terms of management stewardship of this property, and having
the management plan in place prior to the acquisition of the property
will represent what I consider an organized and well thought out
view for taking care of the land within your municipality. We’re
very proud of that. So you know a little bit about the Conservancy
and the Water Supply Authority since hopefully we’ll be landowners
in your municipality. The Land Conservancy of New Jersey has preserved
approximately 16,000 acres throughout the Northern part of the
State. We own and manage six properties totaling 385 acres. The
New Jersey Water Supply Authority has preserved over 2,500 acres
and have easements on 361 acres. So we thank the Township of Mount
Olive for applying with us to the Morris County Preservation Trust.
We applaud Mount Olive for your leadership and your foresight in
working with us on preserving this land. I’m happy to answer
questions on the application.
Mr. Rattner: This whole project, all the acreage and everything
else, what total expenditure are you looking at?
Ms. Davis: If it’s alright, that’s still considered
confidential knowledge and I’d be happy to share that with
Council in executive session. The grant request is for $2.6 million.
Vice President Labow: Also, it’s important to note that
Mount Olive isn’t going to be responsible for caring for
this property or maintenance of this property. It will be through
your organization and the other ones involved.
Mrs. Murphy: As you know, there’s two pieces of land that
we’re looking at. One is forested wetlands directly across
the street which already adjoins other Open Space that we would
own, and then we are considering another 30 acres of non Open Space
that the Town would own, and obviously manage. Everything else
they will manage. That will be no expense to the Town to manage
it, no manpower, and no budget.
Vice President Labow: Anybody? Mr. Perkins.
Mr. Perkins: Kathy, what about the piece of property right next
to the municipal building?
Mr. Sohl: That’s what we’re talking about.
Mrs. Murphy: That’s what we’re talking about.
Vice President Labow: That’s what we’re talking about.
Mrs. Murphy: Thirty acres and then across the street.
Mr. Perkins: Well, because you pointed that way.
Mr. Sohl: Well, that’s the other piece.
Vice President Labow: Both places.
Mrs. Murphy: Both sides, next to the Police department and across
the street.
Mr. Perkins: Okay, so we’re going to get…
Mrs. Murphy: The piece next door is just over 100 acres and we’re
looking at acquiring a portion of that.
Mr. Perkins: That’s a nice solar field. That’s a real
nice solar field.
Mr. Sohl: You don’t even need that much we found out today.
Vice President Labow: Does anybody else have any questions? Okay,
seeing none, I just want to say thank you Barbara and Kathy for
the great job that you’ve done, and constantly preserving
the land for these wonderful projects. Good luck on your application.
I’m sure…
Mr. Roman: Are you going to let cats on there?
Vice President Labow: Mr. Roman wants cats on there. We’re
going to build a cat shelter over there. Okay, Mr. Greenbaum?
Mrs. Murphy: Are you going to hold the resolutions and do both
at the same time?
Vice President Labow: We’re going to do each one since we
have it listed separate. Do you want them both at the same time
or separately? Mr. Greenbaum, would you please move Resolution
number one? Mr. Greenbaum?
Mr. Greenbaum: So moved.
Mr. Rattner: Second.
Vice President Labow: Well, we have to read it through.
1. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing a Grant application to the County of Morris regarding
the purchase of Block 7801, Lot 6, a portion of Block 7900, Lot
7, Block 8000 Lots 2, 6, 7, 14, & 18, and Block 8101 Lot 9
and a portion of Lot 7. (Mt. Olive Complex)
Vice President Labow: Mr. Greenbaum, now would you move it for
me?
Mr. Greenbaum: So moved.
Mr. Rattner: Second, again.
Vice President Labow: Thank you. Any other discussion? Seeing
none, Roll Call, please.
Mrs. Murphy: No…
Mrs. Lashway: Mr. Greenbaum?
Mrs. Murphy: Lisa has to open it to the public.
Vice President Labow: Oh, I’m sorry, my fault. It’s
late. We’re tired. Anybody from the public who would like
to address the Council or speak on this resolution? Seeing none,
Roll Call, please.
Mrs. Lashway: Mr. Greenbaum?
Mr. Greenbaum: Yes.
Mrs. Lashway: Mr. Tobey?
Mr. Tobey: Yes.
Mrs. Lashway: Mr. Perkins?
Mr. Perkins: Yes.
Mrs. Lashway: Mr. Roman?
Mr. Roman: Yes.
Mrs. Lashway: Mr. Rattner?
Mr. Rattner: Yes.
Mrs. Lashway: Mrs. Labow?
Mrs. Labow: Yes.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
Mrs. Murphy: Okay, the second application is being filed by Trust
for Public Land. They are working with the New Jersey Conservation
Foundation to acquire what we would know as Deerfield Estates,
the Rezamir or Mortezai property, which was approved by the Planning
Board for 17 building lots. Of course there’s been some problems
with that, with the erosion and other construction activities.
So I’m going to introduce tonight Terrence Nolan from Trust
for Public Land, and this happens to be adjacent to the Mount Olive
Complex property.
Vice President Labow: Thank you.
Terrence Nolan: Thank you. My name is, again, Terrence Nolan.
I’m a Senior Project Manager with the Trust for Public Land.
I’ll just hand out, I have ten copies of the map for this
parcel. I appreciate the fact that Barbara has a map showing the
region. Our property is directly adjacent, 133 acres directly adjacent
to this particular application which we also support. The Trust
for Public Land has an executed agreement to acquire this property.
We are looking at a closing that will take place in March of 2010.
We are putting together a similar partnership with some different
players, but the ultimate owner of this property will be the New
Jersey Conservation Foundation which is a statewide land trust
and owns thousands of acres statewide. They also have an agreement
to purchase about 250 acres in Washington Township, which is one
small parcel away from the 133 acre tract that we’re looking
at. So the combined acreage here when you take into account that
the Mount Olive complex project will be is just under 1,000 acres.
So a very substantial new assemblage that I think will be very
well managed by two Land Trusts that have statewide resources.
Importantly, TPL as a component of our agreement with this seller,
as you know, there have been issues with this property. There will
be a restoration plan which they are compelled to produce. It needs
to be satisfactory not only to us as a buyer, but also to NJDEP,
the Soil Conservation District, our ultimate owner, and New Jersey
Conservation Foundation. There is ample opportunity for us to provide
feedback and to monitor that restoration component and to make
it an expressed condition of the obligation to close our application
to the County, which will be submitted at the end of this week
for a substantial amount of funding, but we also have partners
that include the MUA. The Trust for Public Land will put in some
of our Green Acres grants. We’ve asked the Township to participate
by putting in some of its planning incentive grants, and that combination
will allow us to acquire the property. TPL actually has a long
history in New Jersey. I had the fortune to work with some of you
in 2004 on the Fire Tower Ridge project, which was a very complex
transaction. Also in headwaters this one would represent, I think,
a great combination with the Mount Olive Complex property. We really
do appreciate your support and we appreciate Mount Olive’s
leadership on Open Space issues.
Vice President Labow: Thank you very much. Does anybody have any
questions? Also, I want to thank you very much for pointing out
that they will be making, you know, restitution to the property
because we did, as you mentioned, we had a lot of problems with
that. So that’s very good news. I’m going to ask Mr.
Tobey to please move Resolution number two which is entitled:
2. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Supporting a Grant Application to the County of Morris Regarding
the Purchase of Block 7000 Lots 64.01 – 64.17 and 65. (Deerfield)
Vice President Labow: Mr. Tobey?
Mr. Tobey: So moved.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
Vice President Labow: Thank you. Anybody from the public have
any questions or any discussion? Seeing none, anybody here from
Council have any comments they’d like to make? I’m
just going to make one. I want to thank you very much for taking
care of this project, and I think it’s really going to be
a good thing all around for the residents of Mount Olive, for Morris
County and the State of New Jersey. Thank you very much.
Mr. Rattner: And save your money this time and don’t give
everybody hats with the name of the project on it.
Mr. Nolan: Sounds good.
Vice President Labow: I just wanted to ask one quick question
about this. Where it says 64.01-64.17, does that include 64.13
because there’s a dash there.
Mrs. Lashway: Yes.
Mrs. Murphy: There’s a whole list. The actual Deerfield
is broken in and then the one next to it is the 35 acre piece.
Vice President Labow: Okay, good, I just wanted to make sure that
that included everything there. Thank you. Roll Call, please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
Vice President Labow: I want to thank both of you, all of you,
for staying so late this evening. Your patience is greatly appreciated.
Drive home safe, please. Thank you and good luck. Alright, we’re
going to go back to the top of the Agenda. Mayor Scapicchio, you
have a Senior Citizen…
Proclamation – Senior Citizens Day – moved to August
4th meeting.
Mayor Scapicchio: I don’t. It’s in Christie’s
office I’ve been told.
Vice President Labow: Alright, so we’ll do that on August
4th.
Questions on Bill List? – none
APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
Vice President Labow: Alright, questions on the Bill List. Anyone
have any questions? Seeing none, Approval of Minutes of Previous
Meetings. Mr. Roman, you’re approving:
July 7, 2009 WS, PM & CS (Mr. Tepper, Mr. Greenbaum & Mr.
Perkins – absent)
Vice President Labow: Would you please move those?
Mr. Roman: I make a motion that we approve the July 7, 2009 Workshop,
Public Meeting and Closed Session.
Vice President Labow: Do I hear a second?
Mr. Tobey: Second.
Vice President Labow: Any discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call,
please.
ROLL CALL – Passed with the exception Mr. Greenbaum and
Mr. Perkins abstained and Mr. Tobey, Mr. Roman, Mr. Rattner and
Mrs. Labow voted yes
CORRESPONDENCE:
Vice President Labow: Alright, the next thing on the Agenda, we
had a special section of Correspondence. There were three letters
received and one of them was the Township Clerk’s certification
of the Ballot Initiative for a TNR Ordinance, a letter received
from Mr. Peter King, Esq. the Board of Health Attorney, and a letter
received July 20, 2009 from the Committee of Petitioners regarding
the Initiative Petition and the proposed TNR Ordinance. Now, as
we discussed earlier in the Workshop session, we’re going
to take a vote to move this on to the August 4th meeting which
will be the second hearing. There will be some discussion during
this next two week period to see if we can come up with any agreements
on the ordinance. Everybody understand? Any questions? Roll Call,
please.
• Township Clerk’s Certification of Initiative Petition
for TNR Ordinance
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
LETTERS FROM RESIDENTS/ORGANIZATIONS
1. Letter received July 14, 2009, from Heymann & Fletcher
regarding S&H Country Builders, Inc., 11 Clearwater Road, Mount
Olive (Block 2207, Lot 3).
2. Letter received July 17, 2009, from the New Jersey Chapter
of the Wildlife Society regarding Trap, Neuter and Return.
RESOLUTIONS / ORDINANCES / CORRESPONDENCE OTHER TOWNS
3. Letter received July 13, 2009, from Rockaway Township regarding
a Resolution Supporting an Amendment to the Open Public Records
Act.
4. Letter received July 15, 2009, from the Borough of Netcong
regarding Ordinance #2009-13, An Ordinance Establishing a Redevelopment
Plan Entitled “Stoll/Allen Street Redevelopment Plan.”
DOT/ /DEP / LOI / HIGHLANDS
5. Letter received July 6, 2009, from Civil Engineering regarding
Lots 11 and 11.01 Block 8300 (438 Sand Shore Road).
6. Letter received July 13, 2009, from the State of New Jersey
Department of Environmental Protection regarding Robert G. Perkoski,
60 Old Mine Hill Road.
7. Letter received July 16, 2009, from the State of New Jersey,
Department of Transportation regarding the Turkey Brook Park Bike/Pedestrian
Path.
8. Letter received July 16, 2009, from the State of New Jersey
Department of Environmental Protection regarding the Goldmine-Morris
Chase Limited Interconnection, Dyrham Road and Woodbine Avenue.
LEAGUE OF MUNICIPALITIES
9. Email received July 6, 2009, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding a July Mayor’s Newsline.
10. Email received July 6, 2009, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding a Federal Bi-Weekly Update for Period
Ending July 3, 2009.
11. Email received July 6, 2009, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding Age Restricted Conversions, and July
Grant Page Posted.
12. Email received July 7, 2009, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding Age Restricted Conversions and Hotel
Liquor License Caps.
13. Email received July 7, 2009, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding Important New Information from the
Division of Local Government Services.
14. Email received July 8, 2009, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding Workshops for DEP Grants.
15. Email received July 8, 2009, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding 2009 New Jersey Local Government Deskbook.
16. Email received July 9, 2009, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding Economic Recovery Update: $4 Billion
in ARRA Broadband Grants and Loans Announced.
17. Email received July 10, 2009, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding From Time to Time – A Quarterly
Report on the Activities of the New Jersey League of Municipalities,
Local Government Greenhouse Gas Reduction Grant Program, and Terrorism
Awareness and Prevention Auto Run CD.
18. Email received July 14, 2009, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding BJ Family Care Advertising Campaign,
Public Hearing Set on Proposed Amendments to Vegetation Management
Rules, and Local Government Greenhouse Gas Grant Workshop.
19. Email received July 15, 2009, from the New Jersey State League
of Municipalities regarding A-3443 Authorizing Set-Asides, Fees
in – Lieu for Open Space and Recreation Purposes.
UTILITIES
20. Letter received July 7, 2009, from Comcast regarding Channel
Changes.
DCA
21. Email received July 2, 2009, from the State of New Jersey
Department of Community Affairs regarding a Gov Connect Update
for July 2, 2009.
LETTER FROM LEGISLATIVE REPRESENTATIVES
22. Email received July 2, 2009, from Congressman Rodney Frelinghuysen
regarding The Week Just Past, Independence Day?, Aftermath of Passage
of a Defective Cap and Trade Bill, Bad Idea of the Week: Incomplete
Cyber Protection, Spread the eNews and Contract Rep. Frelinghuysen.
23. Email received July 10, 2009, from Congressman Rodney Frelinghuysen
regarding the Week Just Past, Helping Small Business Innovate,
Bad Idea of the Week: A New Surtax to Pay for Healthcare, Shining
a Spotlight on the AIG Bonus Amendment, A Civics Lesson for the
Administration, House Assures Veterans Medical Funding, Key Laboratory
Improvements at Picatinny Arsenal, Spread the eNews and Contact
Rep. Frelinghuysen.
24. Letter received July 13, 2009, from Congressman Rodney Frelinghuysen
regarding the American Clean Energy Security Act.
MORRIS COUNTY
25. Email received July 7, 2009, from the County of Morris regarding
New Morris County Online Construction Map.
26. Email received July 10, 2009, from the County of Morris regarding
News from the County of Morris.
DEPARTMENT OF THE PUBLIC ADVOCATE
27. Email received July 13, 2009, from the State of New Jersey
Department of the Public Advocate regarding Tenants – Foreclosure
information for Municipal Websites.
TORT
28. Complaint received July 14, 2009, from Pellegrino & Feldstein,
LLC regarding G.U. RAO vs. Anthony Tartell, Township of Mount Olive,
et als.
Vice President Labow: Thank you. We have 28 pieces of Correspondence.
Anybody have any questions about any of the Correspondence? Seeing
none, Ordinances for Public Hearing.
ORDINANCES FOR PUBLIC HEARING
Vice President Labow: I open the hearing to the public on Ord.#12-2009,
entitled:
Ord.#12-2009 An Ordinance of the Township of Mount Olive Establishing
the Salary for the Director of the Department of Public Works for
the Year 2009.
Vice President Labow: Mr. Greenbaum?
Mr. Greenbaum: I move Ord.#12-2009…
Vice President Labow: One second, I have to first make sure the
public speaks. Anybody from the public? Seeing none, continue please,
Mr. Greenbaum. I’m sorry.
Mr. Greenbaum: I move Ord.#12-2009 for approval.
Mr. Rattner: Second.
Vice President Labow: Alright, any Council discussion? I’d
just like to make one comment. This ordinance came about and Mr.
Quinn has been doing the job of three employees, and I think that
you’ve done a great job. I appreciate all of your service
as I’m sure we all do, and certainly the $10,000 compensation,
you know, you’re saving us a ton of money, about $200,000
a year. Can I have a Roll Call, please?
ROLL CALL – Passed with the exception Mr. Tobey voted no,
Mr. Perkins abstained and Mr. Greenbaum, Mr. Roman, Mr. Rattner
and Mrs. Labow voted yes.
Vice President Labow: Ord.#12-2009 has passed on second reading,
and I hereby direct the Clerk to forward a copy of same to the
Mayor and publish a notice of adoption as required by law.
Dominic DiYanni: As a point of order real quick, I just want to
refer the Council’s attention back to the Roll Call you just
had about placing the TNR Ordinance on the August 4th meeting for
a public hearing. I don’t think there was a motion made and
a second. There was just a Roll Call if I was correct.
Mrs. Lashway: Colleen sort of made the motion. It probably could
have a second.
Mr. DiYanni: I just want to make sure that the record’s
clear that there has been a motion on the table, seconded and voted
on.
Vice President Labow: Okay, we’ll do that.
Mr. Roman: I’ll second it.
Vice President Labow: Well, I can’t really make the motion
can I?
Mr. Greenbaum: Sure you can.
Vice President Labow: Alright, there we go.
Mr. Perkins: Sure you can.
Vice President Labow: So we’re going to vote again?
Mr. DiYanni: Yes.
Vice President Labow: Vote on it again, please.
Mrs. Lashway: Mr. Greenbaum?
Mr. Greenbaum: Gee… Yes.
Mr. Sohl: I’ll throw a pot at you.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
Vice President Labow: Mr. Quinn, back to you, congratulations.
Thank you very much.
Mr. Quinn: Thank you.
Vice President Labow: Alright, Ordinances for First Reading, we
have none.
ORDINANCES FOR FIRST READING – none
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS AGENDA:
Resolutions on the Consent Agenda List are considered to be routine
and non-controversial by the Township Council and will be approved
by one motion (one vote). There will be no separate discussion
or debate on each of these resolutions except for the possibility
of brief clarifying statements that may be offered. If one or more
Council member requests, any individual resolution on the Consent
Agenda may be removed from the Consent Agenda List and acted on
separately.
CONSENT RESOLUTIONS
3. Resolution to Adopt the 2009 Municipal Budget.
4. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing Funds for Drakes Brook Park from the Open Space
Trust.
5. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Awarding a Contract to Accuracy Electric Inc. for NJ Licensed
Electrician Services.
6. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Closing Center Street on July 25, 2009, (August 15, 2009
Rain Date) Between 12 Noon and 12 AM for the Purpose of Holding
a Block Party.
7. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing the Submission of an Application for the Mount
Olive Municipal Alliance Grant for Calendar Year 2010.
Vice President Labow: We have seven, no, we have three through
seven. Mr. Perkins, would you please…?
Mr. Rattner: I’d like three removed.
Vice President Labow: Which one?
Mr. Rattner: Three.
Vice President Labow: Sorry, I didn’t hear you. Would anybody
else to have any other…? Seeing none…
Mrs. Lashway: Alright, and Resolution number four is amended from
$3,000 to $5,000. You’re voting on it as amended.
Vice President Labow: Alright, do we want to do that separately
or just leave it on?
Mrs. Lashway: No.
Vice President Labow: Alright, Mr. Perkins, please move Resolutions
four through seven, noting that number four is amended to $5,000
and not $3,000 out of the Open Space fund.
Mr. Perkins: So moved.
Mr. Rattner: Second.
PUBLIC PORTION ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS – none
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS –none
Vice President Labow: Thank you. Any discussion, any questions
or discussion from the public? Seeing none, Council, any questions
or concerns? Seeing none, Roll Call, please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
RESOLUTIONS NON CONSENT
Vice President Labow: Number eight, Resolution…
Mr. Rattner: We’re on number three.
Mrs. Lashway: Number three.
Vice President Labow: Oh, sorry, thank you, number three, entitled:
3. Resolution to Adopt the 2009 Municipal Budget.
Vice President Labow: Mr. Rattner, would you like to move that?
Mr. Rattner: I move the Resolution to Adopt the 2009 Budget.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
Vice President Labow: Do I hear any discussion or any questions
from the public? This is the… I’m getting to you. There’s
nobody from the public. Mr. Rattner?
Mr. Rattner: Yes, I asked to put that on Non Consent because I
heard that we had another issue where the paperwork that was sent
to the State…
Vice President Labow: It was resolved.
Mr. Rattner: Well, it was resolved but with that I’m going
to want time, at least I’d personally like time to look at
the budget. I mean, I accepted the budget the way that we modified
it. However, with the different issues going on, I want to be able
to check the statutory budget application I guess you would call
it, to the actual budget that we have so I can be sure I know what
I’m voting for.
Vice President Labow: Sherry, if we move this to the August 4th
meeting and we pass the temporary budget, that would be, would
that create any issues?
Mrs. Maniscalco: Let me just clarify because I don’t really
know what information is out there. Unfortunately, I don’t
know what’s been said but when I was looking over the budget
documents that we had today, I noticed that the Recreation Utility
wasn’t in there. I contacted Gary who happens to actually
be on vacation and was nice enough to pick up the phone to find
out that they inadvertently didn’t include Recreation in
the budgets that we got, but that information was sent to the State.
Nothing has changed. It’s the same information that’s
been out there for months. Nothing has changed. So the State got
what they needed to get. For whatever reason when Gary’s
office sent our budgets, the Recreation Utility was omitted but
there is no change.
Mr. Rattner: Well, I’m just going to want, change, you know,
if we can do the temporary budget and it doesn’t have a problem,
not that I’m not supporting the budget. I just want to have
the time…
Mrs. Maniscalco: Guys, we’re going on eight, we’re
going on almost eight months now.
Mr. Rattner: I know, well, it was a combination of different things
but when you constantly hear, well, not with just us but when I
look at what out Federal Congress is doing, that nobody is reading
anything anymore, and to be perfectly honest, I didn’t check
every number on the actual budget form that was sent to the State
that we approved to our regular budget. I just want time to look
at it because I feel uncomfortable.
Vice President Labow: So, Mr. Rattner, you’re making a motion
to move the acceptance of the budget to the August 4th meeting
and go with the temporary budget? No, Mr. DiYanni…
Mr. Roman: Well, you’ve got to make a motion.
Mr. DiYanni: There’s a motion and a second right now, so…
Vice President Labow: Right.
Mr. Greenbaum: No, there isn’t.
Vice President Labow: Yes…
Mr. Greenbaum: No, he didn’t make a motion. She asked Mr.
Rattner and he didn’t want to move it.
Mr. Rattner: I’ll move it.
Mrs. Lashway: He did move it and there was a second.
Vice President Labow: Yes, there was a second.
Mr. Greenbaum: So who seconded it?
Mrs. Lashway: Ray.
Mr. Greenbaum: Oh, I was wrong.
Mrs. Maniscalco: So the budget document that we’ve had out
for months is not acceptable.
Vice President Labow: Oh, one second, Sherry, mark that down on
everybody’s calendar. Rob was wrong on July 21st. Thank you.
Mr. Greenbaum: That is the first time, I think, that I’ve
been wrong.
Vice President Labow: I think so.
Mr. Rattner: …find out you were mistaken.
Vice President Labow: Sherry, I’m sorry, I just had to break
in. Now, what was it you were saying.
Mrs. Maniscalco: No, I’m just confused because, like I said,
we’ve had the same budget document out for months and nothing
has changed. So I’m a little confused as to why we’re
continuing to put it off at this point.
Mr. Greenbaum: Well, there’s nothing to be confused about
other than the fact that Mr. Rattner would like an additional two
weeks to review everything.
Mr. Rattner: Or another couple of days, but we…
Mr. Greenbaum: The bottom line is if Steve is not going to vote
in favor of the Resolution, we should just pull it and put it on
the August 4th.
Mr. Rattner: Well, unless you have three other…
Mr. Greenbaum: We should just pull it.
Vice President Labow: Exactly. So what do we do? We have a motion
and then we have to…
Mr. DiYanni: No, if there’s a subsequent motion made now
to pull it, and there’s no discussion, you vote on that motion.
It supercedes that pending motion on the…
Vice President Labow: Okay, are you seconding it, Mr. Greenbaum?
Mr. Greenbaum: What? The motion to pull the…?
Vice President Labow: To pull, yes.
Mr. Roman: Well, he made the motion to pull. Somebody’s
got to second it.
Mr. Greenbaum: I know, Steve made the motion to pull.
Vice President Labow: Wait, wait, hold on…
Mrs. Lashway: It’s a motion to move it to the August 4th
meeting.
Mr. Greenbaum: Yes, that is the motion that I believe Steve made
and I will second that motion.
Mr. DiYanni: There’s no discussion.
Vice President Labow: No discussion. Roll Call, please.
ROLL CALL – Failed with Mr. Greenbaum, Mr. Perkins, Mr.
Tobey and Mr. Roman voting no and Mr. Rattner and Mrs. Labow voting
yes.
Vice President Labow: Now we go back to the next…
Mr. DiYanni: Now you go back to the motion that was on the table…
Mrs. Lashway: This is a motion to approve the budget.
Vice President Labow: And we need, to adopt the budget, we need
four affirmative votes.
Mr. Greenbaum: Is there discussion at this point? Steve, the reason
that I voted no to pull it is that we are so late in the year already,
number one. We have a representation from our CFO as to exactly
what the mistake was and what the budget shows, and to the extent
that the budget, as presented, doesn’t show exactly what
we were presented with, I think Sherry’s got a big problem
so that you’re review is going to come back and show, and
I know Sherry, and I know that Sherry wouldn’t have made
that representation but for the fact…
Mr. Rattner: I don’t doubt that but if I’m voting
on it, it has to be that I’m convinced that I’ve looked
at it myself and this time I didn’t look at every number.
Mr. Greenbaum: Then you can vote no and the budget will go down.
Vice President Labow: Okay, anybody from the public have anything?
Seeing none, do we have any other Council comments? Roll Call,
please.
ROLL CALL – Passed with Mr. Greenbaum, Mr. Perkins, Mr.
Roman and Mrs. Labow voting yes and Mr. Tobey and Mr. Rattner voting
no.
Mrs. Lashway: That’s four yes’s. It passed.
Vice President Labow: It passed.
Mr. Greenbaum: Doesn’t it need five?
Mr. Rattner: No, capital.
Mr. Greenbaum: It doesn’t?
Vice President Labow: No, I checked that earlier in the week.
It needs four.
Mr. Rattner: A majority of the…
Mrs. Maniscalco: Did it pass, Lisa?
Mrs. Lashway: Yes.
Vice President Labow: Yes, it did, yes. The budget is adopted.
Mrs. Maniscalco: Thank you those of you who voted yes, thank you.
Vice President Labow: Yes, Mr. Greenbaum, I checked with Mr. Dorsey
a couple of days ago to make sure.
Mr. Perkins: It’s alright, wait until you get the bill in
the mail…
Mrs. Maniscalco: No, we appreciate it. Thank you.
Vice President Labow: Thank you very much, Mrs. Jenkins. Mrs…
Mrs. Maniscalco: Sherry.
Vice President Labow: …Sherry.
Mr. Greenbaum: Mrs. Sherry?
Vice President Labow: Mrs. Sherry. Alright, we don’t need
to have Resolution number eight. Eight is off.
8. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Amending the 2009 Temporary Budget for Current, Water, Sewer
and the Recreation Utility. PDF Resolution (only to be acted on
if Resolution #3 does not pass)
Vice President Labow: Number nine is, Mr. Perkins, you are going
to move this for us. It’s entitled:
9. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Closing Rehoboth Road July 26, 2009, Between 2 pm and 12
am for the Purpose of Holding a Block Party.
Mr. Perkins: So moved.
Mr. Roman: Second.
Vice President Labow: Anybody from the public have anything? Seeing
none, anybody from Council? Alright, seeing none, Roll Call, please.
PUBLIC PORTION ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS – none
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS – none
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
Vice President Labow: Mr. Tobey, this one is for you. Resolution
number ten, entitled:
10. Resolution of the Township Council of the Township of Mount
Olive Authorizing a Temporary Road Closure of Portions of Stephens
State Park Road, Sand Shore Road and Smithtown Road.
Mr. Tobey: So moved.
Vice President Labow: Do I hear a second?
Mr. Perkins: Second.
Vice President Labow: Anybody from the public have any questions?
Seeing none, does Council have any questions regarding this? Roll
Call, please.
PUBLIC PORTION ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS – none
COUNCIL COMMENTS ON INDIVIDUAL RESOLUTIONS – none
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
MOTIONS
Vice President Labow: Okay, we’re up to Motions. Approval
of:
1. Approval of Raffle Application #2310 for St. Jude Church, Raffle
Application #2311 & 2312 for the Budd Lake Vol. Fire Dept.
Co. #1 and Raffle Application #2313 for PTA Mount Olive.
Vice President Labow: Mr. Perkins, would you please move those?
Mr. Perkins: So moved.
Mr. Roman: Second.
Vice President Labow: Thank you. Roll Call, please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
Vice President Labow: Motion number two:
2. Appointment of the Mayor with the Advice & Consent of Council
of Gary Mahabir to the Economic Development Committee for a 3 year
unexpired term to expire 12/31/2010.
Vice President Labow: Mr. Tobey, would you please move that?
Mr. Tobey: So moved.
Mr. Greenbaum: Second.
Vice President Labow: Thank you. Roll Call, please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
Vice President Labow: Bill List, Mr. Perkins, would you please
move that for us?
3. Bill List.
Mr. Perkins: Yes, I make a motion to approve the Bill List, 17
pages as submitted.
Mr. Greenbaum: Second.
Vice President Labow: Any discussion? Seeing none, Roll Call,
please.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS
Vice President Labow: Mr. Sohl, do you have anything?
Mr. Sohl: Just very briefly, several of you attended Community
Days this past week. It was a fantastic week, five days. The gate
with the carnival is up and overall the weather was fantastic with
the exception of Friday night. A great time was had by all and
an incredible effort was made by all.
Vice President Labow: Yes, it was excellent and beautiful. Mr.
Rattner?
Mr. Rattner: I want to add to that. I think it worked so good
because each year the staff, the entire Town, Town employees, looked
at what worked and what didn’t work and improved on it. Each
year it shows the improvement, whether it be traffic flow, where
they actually place different things, and I think the effort really
shows in the improvement year after year. It was good the first
year and it’s just getting better. I think the entire staff
has to be congratulated.
Mr. Sohl: You’re absolutely right, Steve. It’s a learning
process and I’ve seen a remarkable difference, even from
2007 which was the first year I was directly involved.
Vice President Labow: And every year Jill has a debriefing and
suggestions start up right away. It’s excellent. Thank you
for bringing that up, Mr. Sohl. Do you have any other Administrative
Matters? Bill, any other matters for this evening?
Mr. Sohl: I’m sorry?
Mr. Greenbaum: Do you have any other Administrative Matters?
Mr. Sohl: No, that’s it.
OLD BUSINESS – none
NEW BUSINESS – none
LEGAL MATTERS – none
Vice President Labow: Thank you. Old Business, does anybody have
any Old Business? Does anybody have any New Business? Seeing none,
Legal Matters, Mr. DiYanni.
Mr. DiYanni: Nothing to report.
Vice President Labow: Nothing to report. Council Reports. Mr.
Roman, Recreation Liaison Report, please.
COUNCIL REPORTS
Recreation Liaison Report
Mr. Roman: The Recreation Committee has not met. The only thing
of note is the carnival. It’s been said before but I think
it deserves repeating that the carnival was again a tremendous
success. The preliminary numbers for the night of fireworks were
around 12,000 in attendance. I look forward to seeing Jill’s
report on the outcome.
Vice President Labow: Very good. I will say, Mr. Roman, a couple
of people wondered where your booth was this week.
Mr. Roman: I was in Virginia.
Vice President Labow: Oh, there you go, a nice vacation. I just
wanted you to know that you were missed. Board of Health Report,
Mr. Perkins.
Board of Health Report
Mr. Perkins: Yes, Madam Vice President, the Board of Health hasn’t
met yet. We did get a presentation on the not so pretty side and
what concerns the Board of Health has on TNR. Again, I look forward
to meeting with the group and we’ll meet with the Health
Officer and the ACO again, and the Mayor, and we will try to come
to some agreement and get that back to the Council before the 4th.
Mrs. Lashway: It has to be way before the 4th. I have to have
an ordinance in form that has to be advertised prior to the 4th
because it’s the public hearing. So this meeting has to happen
very soon.
Mr. Perkins: Don’t look at me.
Mrs. Lashway: No, I’m just…
Mr. Perkins: You need to look at the young lady out there who…
Mrs. Lashway: It’s not August 4th, okay?
Mr. Perkins: I said you’ll have it before August 4th.
Vice President Labow: She needs it long before August 4th.
Mrs. Lashway: I have to advertise the whole ordinance.
Mr. Sohl: Lisa, when do you need it by?
Mrs. Lashway: It has to be advertised by…
Mr. Roman: Yesterday.
Mr. Perkins: Tomorrow.
Mrs. Lashway: July 30th or the 31st but that’s the day it
has to be in the paper. I have to get it to the paper three or
four days before that. So this meeting has to happen very quickly.
Vice President Labow: This weekend so she needs the answer by
Monday.
Mr. Roman: Oh, great…
Mr. Perkins: We’ll give you a yea or a nay.
Vice President Labow: Alright, so we’ll pass that information
on. Okay, very good. Alright, Planning Board Report, Mr. Greenbaum.
Planning Board Report
Mr. Greenbaum: Planning Board met and discussed two Planning Board
items. The first was an amended site plan for Shop Rite with respect
to their prior approval to put five stores in adjacent. Many of
you who have
Mr. Greenbaum (cont’d): been to Shop Rite know that they
are actually constructing the shell of the building. They have
now sought amended site plan approval for the Gold’s Gym,
one tenant. It was approved. The second application dealt with
the old Dyna Pack facility. There has been some prior approval
and whoever was going to come in backed out. Now they have a landscaper
going in and they’ve segregated into two different phases.
This is the phase that’s going to be closer to the road.
It’s not a retail landscaping business. He’s going
to be parking his trucks there. He’s going to be running
his operation out of there. He’s going to have some bulk
product which he does not sell to individual homeowners from that
location. There’s a prohibition against commercial vehicles
on Waterloo Road, I guess based upon the…
Vice President Labow: The road deterioration.
Mr. Greenbaum: …bridge there and so everything is going
to go on to Continental Drive. They put off any further development
of the back property until they have some use in mind.
Vice President Labow: The last meeting that you were at you mentioned
that CVS was coming before the Planning Board. Did they come? Did
they discuss anything?
Mr. Greenbaum: No, I’m not even sure that CVS is coming
to the Planning Board or whether it’s a Board of Adjustment
issue. I’m not exactly sure. It may be a Board of Adjustment
issue. They may need a D Variance. I don’t know.
Vice President Labow: Okay, next question, next on the list rather
is Board of Adjustment Report.
Board of Adjustment Liaison Report
Mr. Greenbaum: Board of Adjustment had a very quick meeting and
only normal business was discussed.
Open Space Committee Report
Vice President Labow: Alright, Open Space Committee Report. Basically
we discussed the applications for the projects which we heard tonight.
We do not meet in August. We also talked about the trail plan,
and the lady who is here tonight I wanted to mention, Barbara.
She is the one who designed our master trail plan for the Town.
We have, I think, nine phases. We have a couple of, we have a Girl
Scout Troop and we have a Boy Scout working on an Eagle Scout Project,
busy working on the trails right now. So we’re just going
to get some organization going on. Kathy Murphy is going to start
to handle organizing the different volunteers who want to work
on the trails. Legislative Committee Report, Mr. Perkins.
Legislative Committee Report
Mr. Perkins: Nothing to report.
Pride Committee Report
Vice President Labow: Pride Committee Report, we meet next week.
Board of Education Liaison Report, Mr. Roman.
Board of Education Liaison Report
Mr. Roman: The Board of Education had an announced, well, an announced
meeting but it was not part of their regularly scheduled meetings
where Dr. Reynolds presented his goals for the upcoming year. He
discussed various changes to make sure that the budget would pass
next year. Also, there was a representative from the Union representing
the Administrators that chided the Board of Education for not signing
their letter of agreement regarding their contract.
Vice President Labow: Where does that stand now, Alex?
Mr. Roman: I’m assuming at the next meeting they’ll
come back with another letter of agreement. I was somewhat perturbed
by their positioning for scolding the Board of Education for not
approving that letter of agreement, which mostly was received not
well by the public. We’ll see what happens at the next meeting.
Vice President Labow: Okay, thank you. Mr. Rattner, Lake Environment…?
Lake/Environment Issues Committee
Mr. Rattner: Nothing to report.
Vice President Labow: Alright, Safety Committee Report, Mr. Perkins.
Safety Committee Liaison
Mr. Perkins: No meeting.
Mr. Greenbaum: How is the ambulance working out?
Vice President Labow: Yes, I was going to ask you.
Mr. Perkins: So far good.
Mr. Greenbaum: I haven’t heard anything.
Mr. Sohl: Very good.
Vice President Labow: I saw Bruce Gallagher at the carnival and
I asked him. He said from his perspective it was working great.
Mr. Greenbaum: Awesome? Seriously?
Vice President Labow: Oh, Mark is saying awesome as well. I’m
hearing…
Mr. Greenbaum: I understand but you haven’t heard about
any particular issues? Everything’s being worked out?
Vice President Labow: So personally a lot of them like it. Economic
Development Committee, Mr. Rattner.
Economic Development Committee Report
Mr. Rattner: Nothing to report.
Vice President Labow: Solid Waste Advisory Committee Report, Mr.
Perkins.
Solid Waste Advisory Committee Report
Mr. Roman: Ray, you’re up again.
Vice President Labow: We’re at SWAC.
Mr. Perkins: Oh, no meeting.
Vice President Labow: Mr. Tobey, Library Report.
Library Board Liaison
Mr. Tobey: Nothing to report.
Senior Citizen Liaison
Vice President Labow: Senior Citizen Report, the only thing, I
haven’t actually spoken to Daniel yet, but I do know that
the senior citizens are having their barbeque on the 23rd of July.
Mr. Roman: Amianda?
Vice President Labow: Daniel Amianda.
Mr. Roman: He’s in Africa.
PUBLIC PORTION
Vice President Labow: Oh, is he? So that’s why he didn’t
call me. Alright, there we go. Okay, I’ll open the meeting
now to the public. Anybody from the public who wishes to speak?
David, wake up. Thank you. Just teasing. Alright, Council Comments.
Mr. Greenbaum, do you have any comments this evening?
COUNCIL COMMENTS
Mr. Greenbaum: No.
Vice President Labow: Mr. Tobey?
Mr. Tobey: Nothing, thank you.
Vice President Labow: Mr. Perkins?
Mr. Perkins: No other comments.
Mr. Roman: It’s going on the record like that now.
Mr. Perkins: That’s alright.
Vice President Labow: Mr. Roman?
Mr. Roman: No, thank you.
Vice President Labow: Mr. Rattner?
Mr. Rattner: None.
Vice President Labow: I just want to say, in closing, Mr. Tepper
resigned from the Council due to a change in job, and I just want
to say it was an honor working with him for several years now.
He will definitely be missed. Mr. Perkins?
Mr. Perkins: Are we going to do our vote now?
Vice President Labow: We’re supposed to… Oh, we were
going to bring it up under New Business.
Mr. Perkins: Well, it’s not New Business. We need to…
Vice President Labow: I mean, we were going to do it under Motions.
Mr. Perkins: We just need to replace Mr. Tepper as President.
I nominate Steve Rattner.
Mr. Roman: Do we have a motion?
Vice President Labow: Well, we have to, I have to… Okay,
so you have to make a motion first that you want to have a Council
Reorganization.
Mr. Perkins: I make a Council Reorganization to replace…?
Vice President Labow: Yes, that’s what John Dorsey had told
me, that it would actually be a motion to do a Council Reorganization
because the way the Robert’s Rules reads is that the Vice
President would replace the President, and then you would vote
in a Vice President. He said if you don’t want to do that,
then you would have to make a motion for a Council Reorganization.
Mr. Perkins: I make a motion for a Council Reorganization. Do
I have a second?
Mr. Tobey: Second.
Vice President Labow: Okay, Mr. Tobey, second. Any discussion
from the public? Mr. Titus, you have to state your name and address
for the record.
John Titus, Oakwood Village: Does the Township run under the Robert’s
Rule of Rights, or Order, I mean?
Mr. Perkins: Does it?
Vice President Labow: Yes.
Mr. Roman: The Township or the meeting?
Mr. Titus: Your meetings.
Mr. Perkins: We follow the Robert’s Rules of Order. Our
Township Code says that we elect a Council President and we elect
a Vice President.
Vice President Labow: No, it doesn’t, Ray.
Mr. Perkins: Yes, it does.
Vice President Labow: No, it doesn’t.
Mr. Titus: If you use Robert’s Rules you have to promote
the Vice President to President.
Mr. Perkins: No, we don’t.
Mr. Titus: Read the Rules.
Mr. Perkins: I’ve read the Rules, Mr. Titus. You read the
Mount Olive Township Code, and I believe our Attorney has already
sent in a letter that basically in effect says that the Council
will vote in their President. The Council will also vote a Vice
President, during periods of absence of the President, the Vice
President fills that Chair. Since the President has resigned, the
Council has the authority and the right to elect another officer
to that position.
Mr. Titus: So your Code is overriding Robert’s Rules then.
Vice President Labow: Actually, Mr. Perkins, let me clarify that.
Mr. Perkins: We don’t follow Robert’s Rules specifically.
There hasn’t been 5% of any meeting ever that’s followed
Robert’s Rules, Mr. Titus.
Mr. Roman: Robert’s Rules would be how to conduct a meeting.
Vice President Labow: No, Mr. Roman and Mr. Perkins, I asked this
question of Mr. Dorsey and for our Township, we use Robert’s
Rules as our parliamentary authority. Our Township Code does not
specifically say what you do in a situation where the President
resigns or passes away or whatever.
Mr. Perkins: That’s correct.
Vice President Labow: So John originally made the decision that
well, you’re elected to Vice President, President, whatever,
that’s what you replace. So when I questioned it we reviewed
Robert’s Rules and Robert’s Rules in the 10th Edition
does say that usually, in every organization, generally the Vice
President moves in and fills the President’s spot. If there’s
more than one Vice President then they number them, Vice President
One and Vice President Two.
Mr. Tobey: I’d like to defer to Dominic for a legal opinion.
Mr. Perkins: I respectfully disagree with that.
Mr. Greenbaum: It doesn’t matter. You’ve moved for
a Council Reorganization. So it trumps…
Mr. Roman: That’s what I’m saying.
Vice President Labow: No, we’re answering Mr. Titus’ question.
Mr. Greenbaum: Yes, it trumps Robert’s Rules anyway. So
there’s a motion on the table for Reorganization.
Vice President Labow: Which Mr. Dorsey had told me that if the
Council doesn’t want to do it like any other organization
would, they can call for a Council Reorganization. That’s
what they have called for at this point.
Mr. Greenbaum: We can always change our leadership. That’s
the bottom line.
Mr. Roman: …been seconded.
Mrs. Lashway: Take a Roll Call?
Vice President Labow: Any discussion? Alright, I’m actually
going to make a comment. I think there are underlying reasons why
the Council does not want me to take the Presidency seat. I am
actually very much surprised at some of you and some of you it’s
also very much expected. I do want to say that Mr. Rattner agreed
with me in terms of, and he can speak for himself, that I should
have gone on to being President. I work very hard for this Town
and I think it would have been nice if you would have followed
the rules that everybody else follows, but obviously Mr. Perkins
didn’t want that either. So, Roll Call.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
Vice President Labow: Okay, next motion, does anybody want to
make a motion for a new President.
Mr. Perkins: I nominate Mr. Steven Rattner.
Mr. Roman: Second.
Vice President Labow: Any other nominations? Any discussion? Any
discussion from the public?
Mr. Perkins: Discussion from the public?
Mr. Roman: Questions.
Vice President Labow: Mr. Russell.
Mr. Roman: Oh, I don’t know.
Nelson Russell: From what I read in the paper, maybe I’m
wrong, the decision of candidates was the responsibility of the
Republican Committee.
Mr. Roman: No, no…
Vice President Labow: No, this is not, excuse me, Mr. Roman. It’s
not for the candidate, for the replacement. What happens is according
to the law the Committee, Republican Committee or the Democratic
Committee, whichever position is vacated they have 15 days to present
the Council with three candidates, and the Republican County Committee
is going to be having their meeting on Saturday. For the August
4th meeting they will give one, two or three recommendations to
the Council from where the Council will choose their replacement
for the seat itself, not the Presidency. In this case, Mr. Tepper
had two roles. He was a Councilman and he was a Council President.
Mr. Russell: Oh, I’m sorry, this is the Presidency. I thought
it was to fill the vacant position.
Mr. Roman: No.
Vice President Labow: No, that’s okay. Thank you.
Mr. Rattner: We’re all doing that.
Vice President Labow: We’re all doing that and I still have
an assignment I’ve got to write tonight.
Mr. Roman: I mean, Steve’s put on a little weight but he
can’t take two seats.
Vice President Labow: Roll Call, please.
Mrs. Lashway: Mr. Greenbaum?
Mr. Greenbaum: No.
Mr. Tobey: What are we voting on?
Mr. Greenbaum: We’re voting on Steve.
Vice President Labow: We are voting on Mr. Rattner for President.
Actually, any Council comments? We didn’t get to the Council
Comments part. I just want to say that I think that Mr. Rattner
will do an excellent job as Council President and I think it would
be a very good idea to have Mr. Rattner as our Council President
in his, not final year, because I’m sure he’ll be back.
Any other Council comments? Seeing none, Mr. Greenbaum?
ROLL CALL – Passed with the exception Mr. Greenbaum voted
no and Mr. Tobey, Mr. Perkins, Mr. Roman and Mrs. Labow voted yes.
Vice President Labow: Alright, so, we are down to, we went through
the Public Portion. Council comments?
Mr. Roman: No, we need the, because it’s the Reorganization…
Mr. Greenbaum: You need Vice President. Don’t you need to,
since we’re reorganizing it actually…
Mr. DiYanni: You would have to seat the Vice President.
Vice President Labow: Oh, so you want to unseat the Vice President
too?
Mr. Perkins: We should.
Mr. Roman: You have to.
Mr. Greenbaum: I think Steve, Steve actually has to run the meeting
now because he’s the President.
President. Rattner: Yes, I’m not going to move, just give
me the thing.
Mr. Perkins: You don’t have to hold the gavel.
President. Rattner: Well, if somebody gets out of hand.
Vice President Labow: Well, he might have to. There might be a
fight.
Mr. Perkins: So now you’re going to open for the Vice President?
Mr. Greenbaum: I make a motion to have Colleen Labow as Vice President.
Mr. Perkins: Second.
President Rattner: Any other nominations? I close the nominations.
Any discussion? Anybody from the public? Roll Call.
ROLL CALL – Passed Unanimously
Vice President Labow: Thank you very much.
President Rattner: And all standing Committees remain as they
were.
Vice President Labow: You’ve got to finish the meeting.
You’ve got to do Council comments.
President Rattner: Any Council comments?
Mr. Roman: We did that.
Mr. Greenbaum: We did that.
President Rattner: Then we’ll move for adjournment.
Mr. Perkins: So moved.
President Rattner: All in favor?
AYE
ADJOURNMENT
Motion was made and seconded, all in favor and none opposed, the
meeting was adjourned at 11:36 pm.
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Steven W. Rattner, Council President
I, Lisa M. Lashway, Township Clerk of the Township of Mount Olive
do hereby certify that the foregoing Minutes is a true and correct
copy of the Minutes approved at a legally convened meeting of the
Mount Olive Township Council duly held on August 4, 2009.
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Michelle Masser, Deputy Township Clerk
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